Talk:FC Stal Kamianske

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Requested move 20 July 2016

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The result of the move request was: Moved. In light of the city move, and GiantSnowman's subsequent decision to support, I see a consensus here.  — Amakuru (talk) 08:57, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

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FC Stal Dniprodzerzhynsk → FC Stal Kamianske – The city was renamed to Kamianske. The club has changed logo removing the old city name. 46.200.26.232 (talk) 16:51, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

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• Oppose – At least until the city has been moved (RM in progress). IF the city is not moved then we should not move this article. Also UEFA calls the club FC Stal Dniprodzerzhynsk (per [1]). Qed237 (talk) 22:35, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
• Oppose per Qed237. GiantSnowman 07:29, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

• Support - as below. GiantSnowman 06:45, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

• Support. The club changed its name. Unfortunately their website has only Russian version and its contact page gives 404 error, but they have a league table identifying the team as Сталь Каменское. They also adopted a new crest referring to хоругвь г.Каменское (flag of Kamianske). Their website is rather poorly made but still proves that the team now refers to itself as "Stal Kamianske" or "PFC Stal" — NickK (talk) 15:24, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

  Oh, and I completely forgot to check the page title: it says ПФК «Сталь» (Каменское) | Официальный сайт (in Russian, translation: PFC Stal Kamianske. Official website). Thus we can safely say that the club already uses the new name — NickK (talk) 09:24, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

  In addition, after the first official match under the new name sports websites started to reflect this change: Footballdatabase, Flashscore, Sportstats etc. — NickK (talk) 09:34, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

• Update: the city has been moved per Talk:Kamianske. @Qed237:, @GiantSnowman:; what is your opinion on this now? Thanks — NickK (talk) 13:43, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

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Correction of the squad

• In this edit [2], user Qed237 (talk · contribs) restored very old version of the squad section (as of 27 June 2016). Please revert his edit to reflect the squad updates made during last month, which was correct after my edit: [3] (as of 18 July 2016). Source for the updated squad is the official team page: [4] 46.200.26.232 (talk) 20:54, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

To be clear I have nothing against updating the squad if it is reliable sourced (which it was), but my edit should not be reverted as we should not change the club name to something that does not match the page title. I considered that pure vandalism. So to be clear, update squad but to not modify team name. If team name should be modified it is through a page move. Qed237 (talk) 22:40, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:35, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Note on name

I take no stance on what is the "correct" name. However WP:LEADSENTENCE states that, "If possible, the page title should be the subject of the first sentence." Attempts to deviate from this guideline could be seen as disruptive editing. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 03:46, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

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Requested move 7 July 2018

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The result of the move request was: Not moved per WP:COMMONNAME. No such user (talk) 15:00, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

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FC Stal Kamianske → PFC Feniks Bucha – The club has changed its name and the name change has been aproved by the football authorities of Ukraine. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 13:48, 7 July 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Anarchyte (work | talk) 07:41, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

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• Oppose. The club was dissolved before playing any game with a new name. 91.124.117.29 (talk) 09:23, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
• Support per nom. GiantSnowman 12:13, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
• Support per nom, reliably referenced in the article. The fact the club dissolved after the name change does not mean we should keep the article at a previous name. Fenix down (talk) 09:18, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

• Comment. Read WP:COMMONNAME. The club has a long history as FC Stal. It was not known under the new name because he didn't play any game as FC Feniks (only 15 days with a new name, renamed on 26 June 2018, dissolved on 9 July 2018). In addition, the club's official website did not even mention the renaming. The similar case is FC Asmaral Moscow (common name) that was known as FC Presnya Moscow for the some last years. 91.124.117.29 (talk) 21:57, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose. Everything that made the topic notable happened under the original name, and the new name has not become the common name of the club. Dekimasuよ! 07:10, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

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