Talk:Evergreen Aviation & Space Museum

the "Spruce Goose" moniker

I feel that references (directly) to the name Spruce Goose should be replaced with Hercules.
The moniker was derogatory reference, and IMO should not be perpetuated.
-- HobbesPDX 22:44, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

I disagree that the name should be replaced. "Spruce Goose" is the name that has stuck, and that people who are not knowledgable about aviation history recognize. I think an explanation of the origin of the term is worthwhile; but I believe it should be included along with the official name. Is my recent edit acceptable to you? -Pete 01:14, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Gentlemen, just a reminder that this argument has been thriving amongst us "plane geeks" for decades. Even Mr. Hughes did not like the moniker and yet this was the first name I learned of the bird as a small child seeing it in Southern California. Please check out Talk:Hughes_H-4_Hercules for other discussions about this topic. It might be best to discuss it there instead of the museum site. Either way, "a rose by any other name is still a rose." In this case it's just a giant wooden one... Blue Skies --Trashbag 04:08, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

(I know this is a little late but) also take a look at the museum's web address. Jason McHuff 05:13, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Collection

A discussion has been started with respect to including every aircraft in the Evergreen Aviation & Space Museum on User_talk:RP459 and User_talk:Swbailey97128 I propose we move the discussion here to allow for more community involvement. RP459 (talk) 16:02, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

My feeling on the subject are that inclusion of every aircraft in Evergreen Aviation & Space Museum violates WP:INDISCRIMINATE RP459 (talk) 16:04, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

My feeling is that the aircraft & spacecraft collection should be represented, but not smaller artifacts such as support equipment, uniforms, spacesuits, etc.; just the major pieces that the public would be likely to come and see. Thoughts and comments? Swbailey97128 (talk) 18:28, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

The above comment by Swbailey97128 I can agree with in part. I would suggest that the important artifacts be included only. The item that caused me to do the original trimming to this article was the inclusion in the list of a Sputnik (replica). That type of thing likely does not need to be included in the list (in my opinion). RP459 (talk) 18:55, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree with the statement by RP459 about the inclusion of minor things like satellite replicas. I would not necessarily rule out all replicas, since replicas of the Bleriot XI, the Curtiss Headless Pusher, and other such aircraft that may no longer exist, are still important to the story of aviation and would be of interest to researchers and potential visitors to the museum. Swbailey97128 (talk) 18:10, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

At this point I would suggest attempting WP:BRD or WP:BOLD, I think you and I are on the same page, and no one else is chiming in with their $0.02 so I would go ahead. RP459 (talk) 19:30, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Key holdings

Might it be best to break up the aircraft listed into groups, such as Early aircraft, WWII aircraft and Jet age aircraft to help people find what they may be interested in seeing? Gunbirddriver (talk) 18:27, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

That assumes that one is reading the article to find something. Most people likely read the article to get an idea of what the museum is about, its history, etc. I think it would be far more valuable to add a section which deals with the broad view of the museum's holdings—a short paragraph or two. Key holdings should be made more accessible by giving a brief description so one can better judge if they want to follow the link. Maybe something along the lines of Douglas A-4 Skyhawk, fighter and ground attack used from 1956 to present(?) with a single jet engine and delta wing. —EncMstr (talk) 21:24, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. As it stands it is a list, which though informative, does not read well. The museum is a broad collection of aircraft through the history of flight, with emphasis on the contemporary aircraft of the Spruce Goose (WWII aircraft), along with jet aircraft, rockets and space craft, and of course helicopters, all brought together through Delford Smith's broad contacts throughout the world. Gunbirddriver (talk) 22:42, 29 November 2010 (UTC)