Talk:Eva Copa/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Mujinga (talk · contribs) 10:27, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Overview

• I'll review this as part of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/GAN Backlog Drives/January 2022 Mujinga (talk) 10:27, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Good Article review progress box Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

• No copyvio flagged up
• pictures / ogg / signature are appropriately licensed
• lead explain MAS on first mention
• unfortunately however, i have already run into issues with verifiability, one of the six good article criteria. this means i am going to stop here and quickfail the article, i'll make some pointers below:
• in Early life and career, the first reference doesn't back up all the claims it is supposed to be referencing eg "an Aymara artisan from Pucarani", "Luis Espinal Camps Educational Unit" are not in source
• "(the first in her family to receive one)" - not in source
• "Copa is a Methodist and no longer follows traditional Aymara folk religion" - not what source says, it says she does still follow Aymara rituals
• "In 2014, the FUL, as a member of the Regional Workers' Center (COR), submitted Copa, as a student representative" and "Despite being thirty-seventh on the list" not in source - seems like these claims are in other sources but not in the one being used to reference these claims
• further down, in Electoral history the data needs to be sourced in a way that can be verified
• the best way to fix these referencing problems would be to go through the article sentence by sentence to check the claims are verified. i hope this article can be a good article in future! Mujinga (talk) 11:08, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick review! Indeed, I can immediately tell that most of the issues here stem from the original reference being pushed further down, something I can quickly fix. On the point of her no longer following traditional religious beliefs, the untranslated Spanish is phrased ambiguously, I read it as: She's Methodist but that is not the reason she no longer follows traditional beliefs. Though it can also be read as: She's Methodists, but that hasn't stopped her from following traditional beliefs. Perhaps the elaboration could just be removed. On a final note, could you elaborate on the electoral data being unverifiable? Krisgabwoosh (talk) 11:34, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

on the spanish, im machine translating so happy to hear a native speaker view, but i saw "Copa es metodista, pero no por eso ha dejado de creer en los ritos aymaras como las wajtas a la Pachamama" translated as "Copa is a Methodist, but that does not mean she has stopped believing in Aymara rites such as the wajtas to Pachamama" Mujinga (talk) 11:49, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

on the electoral reference, it is https://atlaselectoral.oep.org.bo/#/ which takes me to a blank page which no info about Eva Copa on it Mujinga (talk) 11:49, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

great that you want to work on this! we shoudl prob move to talkpage since this GA review will get archived as failed soon, but as I said on your talkpage I'd be happy to review again Mujinga (talk) 11:49, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

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