Talk:European edible dormouse

Etymology

The etymology is inconsistent with that at Dormouse, and has no references. The references at Dormouse, however, are of uncertain quality.

83.135.65.212 (talk) 14:39, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

Distribution map

Can anyone change the colors of the distribution map? Pink is very hard to tell apart from red. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nina Hollfelder (talk • contribs) 11:33, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

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Could anyone provide a citation for the story about Romans raising these things in jars? It's a great little bit of trivia, but it's the sort of information that I find on the internet all the time and can never quite tell if it's true or not. It would help wikipedia's credibility to have citations for crazy facts like this!! Morgan 19:18, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

I've got strong doubts about the veracity of the story. After months in this jar, the vessel would be filled with much more feces than dormouse, and I suspect a strong negative impact on taste and nourishing value of the resulting dormouse-shit-snack. AFAIR, dormice were snack food in Roman times, they were grown in boxes or pits, which may have had clay walls, and I know of recipes to bake various mammals (hedgehogs, most notably) in clay crusts. So I suspect that the original poster mixed some facts to create a story which was a bit more exciting, but less true. ;-) -Syzygy 10:15, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

This site quotes a Roman source which claims "a clay vessel with cavities and niches" as used to keep the Dormice, which sounds more akin to keeping pet hamsters in a cage. - Syzygy 10:30, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

User:Norfolkdumpling Just thought you'd like to know, it is not a type of dormouse. Just like an Eagle Owl isn't a Eagle, the Edible Dormouse isn't a Dormouse. Regards.

That's incorrect. The Edible Dormouse is a dormouse. Are you thinking of the Spiny Dormouse? Those are thoght to not be dormouse (being muroids instead). --Aranae 14:47, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Nope, sorry 100% sure its the Glis Glis. User:Norfolkdumpling

what do you mean? it doesn't belong to the same genus as the common dormouse (genus Muscardinus) but it belongs to the same family, which takes its name from it: 'gliridae', they are relatively close related to each other and to the other species of dormice, belonging to other genera. Plch 14:49, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

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Considering we don't have the stomachs to digest bones, like snakes do, did people actually disassemble these tiny morsels? Or.. were they gnawed at like chicken wings? Either way I wouldn't wanna waste my time eating dozens of little things when I could just kill a large animal and eat the good parts.

I don't see how it's different than eating pigeons or quails, which are relatively common food Plch 14:54, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

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I cancelled the following sentence because it doesn't make any sense: 'ghiro' is just the Italian name of the fat dormouse:

"The edible dormouse is also known in Italy as Ghiro, for its capacity of sleeping 20 hours out of 24."

Plch 14:54, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I have no comment on the Italian name of the dormouse, but the Finnish name it has, 'unikeko' is a direct reference to its sleepy habits, with as much as 20 hours a day of sleep and 7 months of hibernation in addition. Unikeko is literallly "heap of sleep" and also has its own specific feast, "the day of the unikeko" when a designated "unikeko" (a person known for their somnolent talents) is ceremonially given a wake-up by tossing them into the sea near Naantali. -- Cimon Avaro; on a pogostick. (talk) 20:10, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

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I'm a Slovenian and i've already eaten dormouse - we usually make a goulash out of his flesh and is quite good actually. The Slovene name for dormouse is "polh". mrudolf1 13:55, 18 February 2011 (CET)

Fix dead link

Please can you amend the link to Mammals Trust UK to http://www.ptes.org/?page=166. Mammals Trust is part of PTES but this page does not exist any more. Thanks, People's Trust for Endangered Species — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.71.30.173 (talk) 12:09, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

References

13th reference "Confirmed presence of territorial groups of golden jackals (Canis aureus) in Slovenia" doesn't say anything about dormouse or Slovenian traditions about them. Or am I missing something?--Kyng (talk) 14:58, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing this out. I've replaced the reference. --Eleassar ^{my talk} 16:35, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Discrepancy text <--> map

"it is absent [...] from the northern coasts of France, Germany, and the Low Countries" [bolding mine] map shows it present on Baltic Sea cost of Germany. Either the map is wrong, or the text should be altered to "it is absent [...] from the North Sea coasts of France, Germany, and the Low Countries" HMallison (talk) 12:25, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, it's the latter. Anaxial (talk) 22:32, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Photo

You shouldn't use a dead edible dormouse as the main photo for this article. The article for humans don't use the picture of a dead body as well.--31.16.65.94 (talk) 00:36, 26 February 2016 (UTC)