Talk:Engelstad Foundation

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Lpete2019 in topic WP:NPOV

WP:THREE edit

Three best sources:

  1. https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/faith-humility-sustain-generous-heart-of-engelstad-family-foundation/
  2. https://www.grandforksherald.com/news/4445070-engelstad-family-gifts-focus-education-charities
  3. http://www.bigdatabase.com/Big-DB/USFoundation-profiles/ENGELSTAD%20FAMILY%20FOUNDATION-806008137.HTML

Lpete2019 (talk) 23:54, 21 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

WP:NPOV edit

The draft establishes notability, is verifiable, and cites an acceptable range of sources, but cherry picks from them to promote the foundation rather than being a neutral profile. It whitewashes by giving undue weight to positive things while ignoring those that are neutral or negative.

The main source, and several others cited or uncited, discuss its fractious relationships with UNLV and UND, the unusual terms of its gifts, its pulling of donations, and its lobbying to change the law. The draft brushes all of that under the carpet.

Reevaluate the entire awards section. It's hardly surprising that organizations receiving millions of dollars in gifts would give the donor an award. Any award covered only by the awarding organization and the awardee should be removed. Remaining awards that give the appearance of quid-pro-quo should be removed or merged into the discussion of the gift. Awards from third parties, especially awards that are themselves notable, can remain in the article, but consider integrating them into the text. They should not be in bold.

The distinction between the philanthropy and partnerships sections is unclear. Does it partner with organizations it doesn't give money to? In these partnerships is it contributing something other than cash?

Try to find information on finances (not just its donations, but its income and expenses). Try to find more than one sentence about leadership.

While you're fixing the above, improve the context. You wrote that "Engelstad opened the Imperial Palace", but you can't expect readers to know whether that's a restaurant in San Francisco or a theme park in Tokyo. That sentence has been fixed, but watch out for others. Is Engelstad dead? When did he die? You've explained some of the geographic connections, but why does the foundation donate in Mississippi? Worldbruce (talk) 14:39, 24 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

To quickly address this and get this out to draft status, I have cut the list but retained the refs. ~Kvng (talk) 13:58, 24 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
The page has been revised to address the above concerns and sources have been confirmed and organized better, reasonably fixing the issue. At this point, is it in a place to remove the neutrality tag? Lpete2019 (talk) 20:10, 10 March 2020 (UTC)Reply