Talk:Emmett Tyrrell

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How about mentioning that he is the heir to a stove-pipe fortune?

Yes, and that he has worn a wig for many decades. 38.115.185.13 (talk) 16:33, 19 May 2009 (UTC)HelenChicago

Gap

What did this guy do from the time he graduated from college until 2000? the bio section appears to be missing a tremendous amount of biographical information... why?

• Added US-journalist-stub

"Improve?" "Improve?"

Tyrrell was one of those behind the Arkansas Project, financed by Richard Mellon Scaife, to improve the Spectator's investigative journalism.:

The Arkansas Project was a low point in the history of American journalism. Just go to the "Arkansas Project" page itself to see why.68.198.150.179 (talk) 02:46, 16 October 2010 (UTC)captcrisis

"Improve?" Go right ahead!  :) Aboudaqn (talk) 20:18, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Living In Sin

How exactly is Tyrrell a "practicing Catholic" if he is living in sin with a second "wife?" R.M. Schultz (talk) 17:05, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Write it up: go for it!  :) Aboudaqn (talk) 20:18, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

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THREE marriages? Or author's own beliefs?

"In 1972, Tyrrell married . . . Judy Mathews . . . ; they divorced in 1988. In 1998, Tyrrell married Jeanne M. Hauch. . . . . He remains married to Judy Mathews."

Clearly, if the subject of this rather confused article has not remarried since sometime in 1998, he's married to Jeanne. Is the final sentence quoted thus omitting mention of a third marriage, or is it simply reflecting the extraneous religious belief of its author?

We all know that Wikipedia often is biased in its articles. But this may be one of the more blatant instances I've encountered -- or it may simply be a botched job in writing in editing.

Which is it? Firstorm (talk) 22:25, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

“Criticisms of homosexuality” subsection

I removed a subsection that seemed to me a case of undue emphasis. The section was restored and edited, and now reads as follows:

Tyrrell was quoted in a 1994 article by New York Times contributor Dinitia Smith saying that homosexuals are bringing about "an end to community," and "AIDS is lethal, but they're forever trying to magnify a sensible point out of proportion. Heterosexual cases are practically nonexistent. The latest studies show that only 2 to 3 percent of Americans are homosexuals. Kinsey was wrong in saying it was 10 percent. There are thousands of years of moral teaching suggesting homosexuality is wrong."[ref]

This still needs work. My concerns are:

1. Possible WP:UNDUE emphasis. Did Tyrrell ever take action to oppose LGBT movements or just express opinions that were unexceptional among U.S. conservatives in 1994? (I don’t know the answer.)
2. Quoting an interview subject quoting “the latest studies” (from 29 years ago) for a statistic is an unwise practice in general. Is it necessary here?
   1. This applies as well to the claim about “thousands of years of moral teaching suggesting homosexuality is wrong,” which is vaguely worded and would be an unverifiable WP:WEASEL claim if it were not enclosed in quotation marks. We need a compelling, article-relevant reason to reproduce direct quotes like this.
3. We have a global audience, so should avoid quoted references to “AIDS” (“AIDS is lethal”) and esp. “Kinsey” without context or at least a link. (My impression is that Kinsey was a bit obscure even to U.S. audiences in 1994, much less 2024.)
4. The antecedent of the pronoun “they” in Tyrrell’s complaint (“they’re forever trying to magnify,” etc.) is prob. something like “homosexual activists” (to use his terms), but this is not obvious and should not be left to each reader to determine. And again, why are we reproducing his exact words, including the hyperbole?

I’ll add wlinks to HIV/AIDS and Alfred Kinsey but I don’t think that’s enough. Is the subsection needed at all? If Tyrrell was a notable critic of “homosexuality” (or perhaps more precisely, of the U.S. gay rights movement of his era), we should be able to demonstrate that with better evidence. — ℜob C. alias ALAROB 18:03, 30 December 2023 (UTC)