Talk:Eliel Saarinen's Tribune Tower design/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Moswento (talk · contribs) 08:03, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Hello Mr Bink! I'll have a look at this one, hopefully today, or tomorrow if not. Looking forward to it! Moswento ^talky 08:03, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Overall

• This was a thoroughly enjoyable article to review. The prose is written in an elegant and interesting style; the article covers all the main aspects of the design - there is possibility for expansion, but nothing major missing; the descriptions in the table are a good length and link each building to the topic well; the images all check out; the sources are all of a good quality and used accurately. A few minor comments on the text, and then I'll be happy to promote (unless you upset me in the meantime). Good work! Moswento ^talky 12:42, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Lead

• Could you perhaps clarify in the lead that this was a competition to design new headquarters, and that the winning design was actually built? This would make more sense of the word "yet" in the second sentence

Background

• "The prominent Tribune Tower competition was held" - I realise the year is mention in the lead and infobox, but it seems odd not to say here "held in 1922"
• "the major US metropolitan newspaper." - This makes it sound like you're not allowed to name the paper for legal reasons! I see no reason not to mention the paper by name again
• "Many observers felt that Saarinen's simplified yet soaring setback tower was the most appropriate entry, and his novel modernist design influenced many subsequent architectural projects" - I wonder if this sentence is redundant, given that you tell us both things again later in the section?
• "he said that he took" - is the "he said" necessary? Saarinen seems like a trustworthy fellow.
• "further extending its logic of verticality." - is there a way of putting this differently, i.e. more accessibly?
• "Mercurio points to the Tribune Tower competition entry from American architect Bertram Goodhue as having much the same modernist features as Saarinen's, with dramatic setbacks and a more pronounced simplification of the exterior, with less ornamentation, thus a better example of modernism." - This is quite a cumbersome sentence. Could you shorten or split? (I tried to think of an e.g. but struggled)
• I'm wondering if you should break up the 'Background' section into a 'Background' and 'Reception'/'Assessment' section. The last two paragraphs don't really fit the 'Background' title in my view. Happy to discuss this point.

Buildings influence

• Why no description of the David Stott building? It might feel left out...

Response

• My internet access is very spotty today. I expect I will be able to address the issues tomorrow. Thanks for reviewing! Binksternet (talk) 14:24, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
• In this edit I implemented many of your ideas. Please check the results to see how it all works. I have not yet expanded the Stott building entry, though I intend to do so in the next few days. I have not yet determined how to fix the perceived redundancy of the "Many observers" sentence. Binksternet (talk) 04:17, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
  • Thanks for responding to my comments. I'm happy with all of those changes - good work! I look forward to seeing an expanded Stott entry to finish the review. The redundant sentence seems less redundant to me after a second read-through (perhaps the splitting of the Background section helps? not sure), so if you decide to leave it, this won't affect the outcome of the review. Take care, Moswento ^talky 07:42, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
    • Fortunately I ran into some quality spare time today and I was able to add text to the Stott entry. Binksternet (talk) 18:49, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
      • Great stuff! In that case, I'm happy to promote this to GA. Keep up the good work! Moswento ^talky 07:52, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
        • Fantastic! Thank you for your time and your thorough review. Binksternet (talk) 15:19, 13 September 2013 (UTC)