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RFC on Lede Paragraph edit

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Should the lede paragraph of Elections in Cuba be revised as follows?

It currently reads:

Elections in Cuba are not considered democratic because the government does not allow free and fair voting.[1]

Should this be changed to read:

Elections in Cuba are not considered liberally democratic, because they do not have free and fair elections.[2] The 2019 constitution of Cuba states the aim to create a democratic unitary Cuban-Marxist one-party socialist republic.[3][4]:[Government and society]

Please answer Yes in favor of the change or No to oppose the change, followed by a brief statement, in the Survey. Do not reply to other editors in the Survey. Back-and-forth discussion is permitted in the Discussion section; that's what it's for.

Rationale for Yes (change to lede) edit

The lede should either introduce according to whom Cuba is not democratic or be more specific about the ways it is less democratic.

Democracy is a notoriously difficult subject to measure and also actively politicized to push narratives.

It is important to realize there are different, major points of view of what a democracy (a government by the people, for the people) should look like.

The goal of Wikipedia is to offer a neutral point of view, which tries to balance the major perspectives on any given topic.

Unconditionally calling Cuba not a democracy goes against the principle of Wikivoice to present facts as facts and opinions as opinions.

The current government is better described as a heavy compromise between the ideals of Democracy and the reality of the situation it is placed in.

Before you decide, I'd like you to also consider other democracies that are also a heavy compromise between the ideals of democracy and the reality of the situations they were placed in, and if they should then also be counted as democratic or not democratic by your own standard.

Rationale for No (leave lede as is) edit

We do not engage in wp:or or second-guess RS. If RS say it is undemocratic so do we. If RS do not draw conclusions or inferences, neither do we. We can only say what RS actually say (per wp:v)

wp:NPOV does not mean we have to have WP:FALSEBALANCE.

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References

  1. ^ Multiple sources:
    • Hyde, Susan D. (2011). The Pseudo-Democrat's Dilemma: Why Election Observation Became an International Norm. Cornell University Press. pp. 122–123. ISBN 978-0-8014-6125-5.
    • Galvis, Ángela Fonseca; Superti, Chiara (2019-10-03). "Who wins the most when everybody wins? Predicting candidate performance in an authoritarian election". Democratization. 26 (7): 1278–1298. doi:10.1080/13510347.2019.1629420. ISSN 1351-0347. S2CID 197727359.
    • Domínguez, Jorge I.; Galvis, Ángela Fonseca; Superti, Chiara (2017). "Authoritarian Regimes and Their Permitted Oppositions: Election Day Outcomes in Cuba". Latin American Politics and Society. 59 (2): 27–52. doi:10.1111/laps.12017. ISSN 1531-426X. S2CID 157677498.
    • Domínguez, Jorge I. (2021). "The Democratic Claims of Communist Regime Leaders: Cuba's Council of State in a Comparative Context". Communist and Post-Communist Studies. 54 (1–2): 45–65. doi:10.1525/j.postcomstud.2021.54.1-2.45. ISSN 0967-067X. S2CID 236365630.
  2. ^ Multiple sources:
  3. ^ "Constitution of Cuba" (PDF). constituteproject.org. 10 April 2019. Archived (PDF) from the original on 2020-02-28. Retrieved 15 June 2023.
  4. ^ https://www.britannica.com/place/Cuba
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