Talk:Dylan & the Dead

Latest comment: 9 years ago by Mudwater in topic Album credited to Bob Dylan and Grateful Dead

Reviewers edit

Re "the reviewers were all synonymous," might they all have been unanimous? If so, the "all" is redundant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.231.88.4 (talk) 23:23, 26 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

More info edit

i kind of wish there was more info. do fans hate this album so much they don't want to discuss it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.105.110.237 (talk) 00:31, 21 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

I have every single Bob Dylan album, and this is the only one I've chosen not to rip into my Music folder. It's awful. Releasing this as an album was an insult to the fans. Dylan sounds like he's not even mentally present at his own concert. He forgets his own lyrics in several places and just babbles gibberish, and mumbles the rest. It's impossible to believe that this is the best 45 minutes of a whole concert tour. They just said, "Hey, a concert album of Bob Dylan and the Grateful Dead is sure to sell" so they released it, quality be damned. Carlo (talk) 16:25, 28 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

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Review section edit

The review section presents a mix of reviews which are contemporary and modern without really distinguishing. Allmusic and Amazon can't possibly be from the date of the album release. The only reason I bring it up is the past tense of the first two sentences (strong initial sales followed by poor RS review) makes all the following reviews sonud like contemporary responses. --93.97.13.27 (talk) 21:31, 28 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

I don't really see a problem with the way it's written now, but if you think you can improve it, feel free to do so. Thanks. Mudwater (Talk) 01:16, 29 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

Album credited to Bob Dylan and Grateful Dead edit

I'm again reverting a recent edit to the lead sentence that says that the album is credited to Dylan alone. That's incorrect, it's credited to both Bob Dylan and the Grateful Dead. I'm looking at the original LP right now. Both the album cover and the label on the disc just say Dylan & the Dead. The paper album sleeve says "Bob Dylan" and "Grateful Dead", in big letters, followed by an alphabetical list of the musicians. The edit I'm reverting includes a link to the Rolling Stone review of the album here that does credit the album to Dylan alone. They're wrong. The AllMusic review here credits the album to both Bob Dylan and the Grateful Dead, and so does the Robert Christgau review here. And there are more sources, not currently cited in the article, that credit it to both, like the Chicago Reader here. Mudwater (Talk) 10:10, 17 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

Fair enough. So, I've done some digging and it seems that most labels just say "Dylan & The Dead", the title, with no artist credit at all. When I see a *credit*, it's sometimes to just Dylan and sometimes "Dylan & The Dead" (note: not actually to "Grateful Dead"), including the RIAA. I have the Sony CD right here and it says only Dylan, as does the Rolling Stone review listed. Amazon, Google Play and Spotify say "Bob Dylan", while iTunes is one of the few places that says "Bob Dylan & Grateful Dead". So, I think it's at least worth noting that it is generally credited just to either "Bob Dylan" or "Dylan & The Dead". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.149.45.52 (talk) 19:03, 17 January 2015 (UTC)Reply
That's interesting. Especially the part about the Sony CD saying Bob Dylan but not Grateful Dead. As I mentioned, the LP liner sleeve names both. And the Chicago Reader review linked above does explicitly credit it to "Bob Dylan and the Grateful Dead". So, yeah, maybe it is worth mentioning in the article that the album is sometimes credited to both Dylan and the Dead and sometimes just to Dylan. Mudwater (Talk) 19:47, 17 January 2015 (UTC)Reply