Talk:Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine

Latest comment: 6 years ago by Dissident93 in topic Mega Drive vs Genesis
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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the plot of Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine revolves around Dr. Robotnik turning bean-like creatures into robots by his "Mean Bean-Steaming Machine"?

same as? edit

This game is similer to games like tetris and dr.mario

It's even more similar to Puyo Puyo. 68.190.167.252 02:39, 11 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Yes, the game engine is the same as used in Puyp Puyo.  Doktor  Wilhelm  14:57, 17 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

levels edit

Does anyone know the codes for the levels (4782)

Release Date February 1993? edit

How can the game be made 5 months before Adventures of Sonic the hedgehog? The header (in the game) says Sep. 1993 (which was when the cartoon was aired). Should it be a later date?

GAME GEAR! edit

There isn't much info about the Game Gear/Master System version and its Puzzle Mode in the article. This should really be added. --Libertyernie2 22:49, 15 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

sonic dx director cut inclu super sonic amy contient tree level sonic 9 level

To the above poster, Mr T says "What!? I don't remember none of that! You're just a crazy man seein' thing that ain't there!" To the person before the above poster, a blurb on puzzle mode should definatley be added. Allyourbasearebelongtousomg 17:55, 8 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

All this level stuff edit

A lot of this information is incorrect, the unofficial titles are ridiculous, and all Badniks in the game appear in the cartoon (Watch episode 1). MrDrake, 20:27, 2 February 2007 (GMT)

Change the description of each stage then. By the way, Humpty and Spike are nowhere to be foun in the episode. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.28.213.2 (talk) 20:43, 2 February 2007 (UTC).Reply

In the game gear version the names of all the badniks are shownAllyourbasearebelongtousomg 17:49, 8 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

Development section? edit

I still play Mean Bean Machine, but is there any information about how the game was developed? Don't forget to give me sources for that kind of stuff. SNAKE OF INTELLIGENT IGNORANCE 21:11, 9 September 2011 (UTC)Reply

David Javelosa edit

Javelosa only done one track for the game, so I think he's too minor for the infobox. DrDevilFX (talk) 08:46, 10 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

  • That's fine, but where does it state this? ~ Dissident93 (talk) 22:14, 10 February 2016 (UTC)Reply
    • I'm not entirely sure. The VGM set credits him merely for that track, but that's obviously not a reliable source. Keep Javelosa on the infobox if you want, then. DrDevilFX (talk) 22:25, 10 February 2016 (UTC)Reply
      • I think I'm the one who updated the set, but I can't say for sure he just had one track in the game. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 22:50, 10 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

Mega Drive vs Genesis edit

Going back to this age old debate, but I thought we were meant to use Sega Genesis instead of Mega Drive for most mentions? The game was released in North America, and the WP:COMMONNAME for the console is Genesis, per the many debates in the past, so I don't see why we'd prefer Mega Drive here, breaking consistency set in other articles. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 18:56, 16 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

Yes, usually we have it match the article title (so Sega Genesis.) Sergecross73 msg me 19:08, 16 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

Dissident, I would have to respectfully disagree here. Normally I would agree if it were released in North America first or developed outside Europe or Japan, but what I've seen with too many editors is what feels like the gradual extermination of 'Mega Drive'. I was even reverted on an article with clear European ties in the past. Saying that it's the common name for the console can't simply be true; IMO it's a misinterpretation of WP:COMMONNAME. Sorry for the accidental second revert. JAGUAR  19:29, 16 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

But using that logic, all Japanese-developed Genesis games would be moved to Mega Drive. This game is a westernized version based on an American cartoon series, if this was a European/Japanese only release, I wouldn't care, but this breaks consistency we have with other articles with similar backgrounds, such as Sonic Spinball. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 02:41, 17 August 2017 (UTC)Reply
This game is Puyo Puyo, the fact that it has characters from the cartoon series doesn't give it any ties. I wouldn't care if it did personally, I've written a few Sonic GAs and used US spelling in most of them, but what I won't stand is the general disregard of 'Mega Drive' because I think it's an argument based mostly on emotion. JAGUAR  11:15, 17 August 2017 (UTC)Reply
I don't see how this changes anything. A real Puyo Puyo game being released in NA would still use the Genesis name, this just seems more like an excuse to use Mega Drive, as it's inconsistent with how we handle other titles, which is my only issue with it. Either we use Mega Drive for every Japanese/European developed game on the platform, or we go with the status quo and use the article title, which is currently Genesis. Mixing and matching because of personal preference doesn't help at all. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 21:06, 18 August 2017 (UTC)Reply
Not sure why you keep trying to change it despite all that has been said about it, a personal preference is not a valid reason. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 01:49, 18 September 2017 (UTC)Reply
It's not a personal preference. It was a compromise which I've seen in the lead of other Sonic articles and it reminded me to put it here. I would've even thought you would be fine with that considering the hours I've spent writing this. JAGUAR  11:13, 18 September 2017 (UTC)Reply
Not sure what you mean, the other Sonic articles are all using Genesis instead of Mega Drive (at least they do now). Your userpage says you hail from England, so there is clearly a bias to use Mega Drive here. You are also a longtime editor that has made many valuable contributions to Wikipedia, so you should really know better than to let a personal bias trump consensus. Per my above points, there is no valid reason to use Mega Drive at all on this page. It's themed around an American TV series, and the fact it is based off a Japanese game doesn't matter, per the other Sonic articles (and basically any other Japanese IP) that don't use Mega Drive. I fail to see any relevancy to the PAL regions that would even give you some merit for doing this, outside of it also being released there. Sorry, but until other editors give their opinions on this subject, it shouldn't be changed. It should probably be mentioned at WT:VG. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 03:14, 20 September 2017 (UTC)Reply
You're saying I have a bias when I don't. Last time I checked a couple of the Sonic articles had the shared 'Genesis/Mega Drive' in their leads but it seems that someone changed them. I have no problem with the name Genesis, but what does bother me is the seeming eradication of the use of 'Mega Drive' from pretty much all articles, ties or no ties. There is no merit to oust it. I think that articles should share the common name so the leads should mention both 'Genesis/Mega Drive' in articles with either neutral or weak ties. I wouldn't want to get in a debate at WT:VG since I know it's going to be a one-sided discussion but what I'm seeing here is the eradication of Mega Drive. Your statement above The game was released in North America, and the WP:COMMONNAME for the console is Genesis is a straw man. Yes, it was released in Europe and Japan too. Is it not bias to exclusively call it Genesis just because it was released in North America while ignoring the other regions? You accuse me of having a bias and then you bring up my residence to support that assumption. All I'm saying is that I would like people to consider the option of using both the names at least once in the article's lead. JAGUAR  09:26, 20 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

My entire issue with this is consistency; I just don't see why it has to be done like this here, but not on other Genesis game articles. I'm simply going with the article name and what consensus has gone with in the past. The article of the console is not Genesis/Mega Drive, and previous attempts at trying to change the page title to that have failed. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 19:22, 27 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

Pop culture reference edit

Isn't this the game that was discussed in that backstory episode of Mythic Quest? When the unnamed man and woman met in the game store in the 90s. They bonded on their shared love of that game.