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Adding citation truncated article edit
When I tried to add a citation for Lorne Greene everything following the reference link is deleted but shows up in the edit box. The reference I was trying to cite is "http://archives.cbc.ca/IDC-1-69-543-2729/life_society/boyd_gang/clip4". Can anyone help me out with this?--Jeff Johnston (talk) 12:34, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
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regarding living conditions - from toronto.ca's doors open site:
The Old Don Jail is one of Toronto’s greatest hidden treasures. Built before Confederation, it was the largest prison of its kind built in North America - a jail that attempted to reform its inmates rather than simply incarcerate them. The Don Jail reflected contemporary trends in prison design for its time and was remarkably well conceived. Its design provided each inmate with access to daylight, heat and ventilation - all modern advances in mid-19th-century prisons. During the day prisoners worked in the fields that are now the surrounding Riverdale neighbourhood. The Don Jail was designed by William Thomas, one of Toronto's most important 19th-century architects. The Jail, and another of his designs, St. Lawrence Hall, remain the largest mid-19th-century buildings built by the City of Toronto. The Jail design features cell wings leading off from a great Rotunda, one of Toronto’s most astounding 19th-century rooms. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.201.165.98 (talk) 15:31, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Movies and television edit
There is nothing inherently wrong with mentioning pop culture references in an article. As currently worded, though, I am hard pressed to see how the reference to Orphan Black is anything more than trivia. The building has been used as a backdrop in a number of productions. What is the significance/encyclopedic value here? Do we have a secondary source telling us it is one of the most popular backdrops in Toronto? (or something similar) Otherwise, merely mentioning that the building has stood in for something in a tv show or movie doesn't tell us anything about the article subject's influence and/or impact upon popular culture. As an aside, does the existing reference merit an entire section in the article? --Skeezix1000 (talk) 14:57, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
- I have seen it done before on other wiki articles. I thought it was common practice. I used Ohio State Reformatory as an example. Presumably the other appearances could also be listed. Personally, I find it interesting, but I'm not a Wikipedia expert or administrator.--
Kzirkel (talk) 17:57, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
- It's done a lot, thus the concern. We usually end up with pointless lists of appearances in popular media, which rarely give us any insight into the article subject itself. The article is not a directory of movie and tv appearances. When the article subject plays itself in popular media, it often gives insight into the subject itself (e.g. the fact that there are so many love songs which mention Paris tells us something about the city itself). It's harder when the subject is standing in for something else. But not impossible. If we had a secondary source saying that the Don Jail is a popular location for filming, and why, that would be encyclopedic. If we had information as to why the Orphan Black producers chose to film at Bridgepoint/Don Jail, perhaps based on the architecture, that might be encyclopedic. But the simple fact this one show filmed here is not particularly insightful - it might have been a choice made for financial and practical reasons (the hospital didn't charge as much as other possible sites, and had empty rooms which could be used for filming) than any inherent quality or aspect of the facility itself. The mere fact that they filmed a few scenes on this site, and then called it the Dyad Institute with no references to the complex's actual name or use, does not in my mind contribute to the notability of the subject.
You're not required to be an expert or admin. Your opinion is as valid as anyone else's around here. I'm no expert either. I do know, however, that Wikipedia guidelines suggest that we should strive for more than just lists of appearances. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 20:54, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
- It's done a lot, thus the concern. We usually end up with pointless lists of appearances in popular media, which rarely give us any insight into the article subject itself. The article is not a directory of movie and tv appearances. When the article subject plays itself in popular media, it often gives insight into the subject itself (e.g. the fact that there are so many love songs which mention Paris tells us something about the city itself). It's harder when the subject is standing in for something else. But not impossible. If we had a secondary source saying that the Don Jail is a popular location for filming, and why, that would be encyclopedic. If we had information as to why the Orphan Black producers chose to film at Bridgepoint/Don Jail, perhaps based on the architecture, that might be encyclopedic. But the simple fact this one show filmed here is not particularly insightful - it might have been a choice made for financial and practical reasons (the hospital didn't charge as much as other possible sites, and had empty rooms which could be used for filming) than any inherent quality or aspect of the facility itself. The mere fact that they filmed a few scenes on this site, and then called it the Dyad Institute with no references to the complex's actual name or use, does not in my mind contribute to the notability of the subject.
- Nikkimaria removed the sections in question, without any comment here, which would not have been my approach. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 12:53, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
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Remanded "offenders"? edit
Shouldn't this read "remanded persons" or "remanded accused" or "remanded suspects?" You are not an "offender" because a Toronto police officer popped you in the Don Jail! WmDKing (talk) 11:11, 6 January 2024 (UTC)