Talk:Do the Bartman

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Stevoisiake in topic Michael Jackson
Good articleDo the Bartman has been listed as one of the Music good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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The dance edit

There is also a dance called the Bart Simpson, that originated in Atlanta, where dancers developed that step from what Bart Simpson did in "Do The Bartman". Michael Jackson himself uses the step in the video of "Remember the Time" in the end when he sings "I Bet You Remember". The routine was made by Buddha Stretch, just to let you know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.122.15.102 (talk) 20:37, 13 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

Lyrics edit

I posted the lyrics, however someone removed them due to copyright problems.

If I repost the lyrics with its source, is that ok?

Could someone please explain to me all the steps to follow, so I don't commit any more copyright infringement.--Misantropo 17:49, 20 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

No problem. Wikipedia tends to shy away from posting the lyrics to any songs, regardless of whether or not a source is posted. Content posted to Wikipedia is has to be compliant with the GFDL and most song lyrics are not, as the authors of said songs retain their copyrights so people do not rip off their lyrics. It is, however, perfectly fine (I think anyway) to post a link to another page that has the lyrics. Its basically just a way to respect the copyrights of others and to week Wikipedia out of any legal tangles. I hope this helps. youngamerican (ahoy-hoy) 20:09, 21 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

Michael Jackson edit

Somebody rewroted the article to state that Michael Jackson didn't do anything on this track. As long as you don't have a source saying the Michael Jackson specifically didn't do it, I will keep this information out of the article. Matt Groening said that Michael Jackson did it and I can't think out of reason why he would lie about this now. --Maitch 15:37, 17 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Someone better change the writer's credit for the single on this page, then.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Simpsons_Sing_the_Blues

It lists DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.122.63.189 (talk) 16:01, 4 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

it opened tonights simpsons episode in Michael's memory --67.173.215.126 (talk) 00:07, 29 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

Is there a source we could cite for the claim that Jackson co-wrote the song? And/or is there any way to clarify how and why his record label prevented him from getting a songwriting credit? Timothy Horrigan (talk) 11:25, 25 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

According to MBW, Bryan Loren has stated that Michael Jackson sung the backing vocals, but he was not involved as a writer. Stevoisiak (talk) 20:34, 21 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

Youtube link edit

Is this link on the site not a copyright infringement? If not, wouldn't it be better to move it to the end of the page?

WikiProject class rating edit

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 19:13, 28 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

performers of the song edit

Can we get a little more information on the talented background singers in the chorus? Who were they? They must have been pretty good to work with the King of Pop! Anyone know who they were? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.213.114.186 (talk) 16:06, 29 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

GA Review edit

One should add that this was also a #5 in germany. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.164.246.155 (talk) 23:02, 20 March 2018 (UTC)Reply


This review is transcluded from Talk:Do the Bartman/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: --Legolas (talk2me) 10:15, 17 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

I will be reviewing this article against the GA criteria. --Legolas (talk2me) 10:15, 17 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose):   b (MoS):  
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references):   b (citations to reliable sources):   c (OR):  
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects):   b (focused):  
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:  
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:  
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):   b (appropriate use with suitable captions):  
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:  

OK. The article seems a gross violations of MOS on a large scale. I did not even move beyond the lead that I found them.

  1. Online sources are not supposed to be italicized.
  Done I've removed the italics from The Daily Vault in the reception section. Crystal Clear x3 [talk] 12:55, 17 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
  1. There is no alt text for the images.
  Done Crystal Clear x3 [talk] 11:51, 17 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
  1. Unsourced sales.
  Done I've sourced the sales of the single from the United Kingdom's BPI. Crystal Clear x3 [talk] 12:00, 17 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
That's still not correct. The BPI certification link talks about shipement not actual sales. --Legolas (talk2me) 12:12, 17 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
I've reworded mention of the songs UK certification to "shipments". Crystal Clear x3 [talk] 12:38, 17 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
  1. No usage of en-dash.
  Done Crystal Clear x3 [talk] 00:24, 18 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
  1. A number of repeated references, especially 28-36.
I believe that I've corrected this problem, can you check to make sure I fixed all the references? Thanks Crystal Clear x3 [talk] 12:40, 17 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
Not yet. You need to replace all the Hung Medien references with a single one as it's the same content repeated in all of them. --Legolas (talk2me) 04:24, 18 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
  1. A number of times procession is added, however, bigger markets like Australia and Norway are left for no reason. Why?
I have not been able to locate all of the songs chart procession and succession in countries where it peaked at number one, so I've instead removed the section altogether. Crystal Clear x3 [talk] 11:51, 17 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
Wikipedia itself has the lists. --Legolas (talk2me) 12:12, 17 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
  Done I've just added the chart procession and succession to Australia and Norway. Crystal Clear x3 [talk] 23:03, 17 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
The date formatting for Australia is incorrect. --Legolas (talk2me) 04:24, 18 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
  1. "Do The Bartman" sold half a million copies and was certified gold by the British Phonographic Industry on February 1, 1991." – This is so wrong. The BPI doesnot certify on sales, it certifies on shipments. And BPI gold certification is for 400K copies.
  Done Crystal Clear x3 [talk] 11:51, 17 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
  1. There is a case of huge WP:OVERLINK happening. One example, ref no 8. You are citing it to BBC News while formatting as BBC.co.uk which is wrong. Same with EW.com, News.BBC.co.uk, BPI.co.uk etc etc.
  Done I believe I've corrected this problem, if I missed any references please let me know. Thanks, Crystal Clear x3 [talk] 12:38, 17 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
  1. Sp mistakes at EL.
Huh? I do not understand that sentence. Crystal Clear x3 [talk] 12:38, 17 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
Spelling mistake in external links section is what the shorthand meant. I've now fixed it. Pyrrhus16 15:02, 17 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
  1. File:DotheBartman.png shouldn't be more than 300x300 for passing wP:NFCC.
  Done Crystal Clear x3 [talk] 11:51, 17 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

Please correct these mistakes so that I can actually proceed to the article. I am giving concerned editor/s 3 days for it. --Legolas (talk2me) 10:25, 17 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

  1. Online sources are not supposed to be italicized. A number of them are still left. --Legolas (talk2me) 04:24, 18 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
I have not been able to find any online sources that are in italics. Could you cite the section(s) that they are in? Crystal Clear x3 [talk] 04:52, 18 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
  1. The title of the section "Reception". I beleive Reception implies both critical and commercial performance, but this section contains only the critical ones. Hence you can rename it as "Critical reception". --Legolas (talk2me) 04:24, 18 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
  Done Crystal Clear x3 [talk] 04:27, 18 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
The Hung Medien is left still. I believe you did a similar change for the Hung Medien in "Say Say Say". --Legolas (talk2me) 04:33, 18 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
  Done I corrected the problem, but I left ref. 19 because it sources the songs weeks at number one in that country. Crystal Clear x3 [talk] 04:48, 18 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
Good work. I'm passing this article now. --Legolas (talk2me) 08:38, 18 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
Thank you very much, Crystal Clear x3 [talk] 10:41, 18 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

The Lonely Island: Boombox edit

At 1:25 in "Boombox" a reference is made to the Bart Man dance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=8yvEYKRF5IA — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.123.253.142 (talk) 23:27, 27 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

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Jackson lyricist edit

Jackson should probably not be stated that he contributed to lyrics in the lead. Bryan states "I am the sole writer of the song" and only suggets Jackson came up with the title, but not anything lyrically. If he was able to sell the song, the Jackson lyrics are misleading in the lead. Please do not add them anymore without specific proof from the Jackson side of things. Andrzejbanas (talk) 10:20, 18 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

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This interview is full of amazing information on the music video's construction, which will certainly buff up the article. :) @Crystal Clear x3:@Theleftorium:--Coin945 (talk) 12:18, 24 June 2018 (UTC)Reply