Talk:Divine Comedy in popular culture

Cultural depictions of Dante?

I see there's already a cultural page for Dante. I've done some work that may serve as a model for other Core Biography cultural lists: Cultural depictions of Joan of Arc, which has become a featured list. Recently I also created Cultural depictions of Alexander the Great out of material that had been deleted from the biography article. I'd like to suggest standardizing the formatting and referencing for similar lists. Regards, Durova 16:39, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Are you looking for opinions on the best title for the article? IMHO, "cultural depictions" sounds like a more useful label than the inherently low-brow "...in popular culture". (Oh, and the Joan of Arc page looks very nice, congrats.) Sgt Pinback 21:18, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Actually I'm suggesting this at the core biography articles as a standardized approach. Durova 04:12, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

I made the Niven/Pournelle novel less of a spoiler. I read it, and it was fun not to know who he would be traveling with. There's a link to the book's article, so people can still find out anyway. --Scarlet-=Spider-DavE=- 15:21, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Thom Yorke of the band Radiohead has also referenced Dante's Inferno as a recurring source of inspiration for his music and many references to the poem can be found in the band's lyrics. Some claim that Pyramid Song from the album Amnesiac contains references to the Inferno, but 'swimming with angels' does not occur in the Inferno nor does going to 'heaven in a row boat' (characters get into boats but they do not make it to heaven until "Paradiso" of course), nor do 'astral cars' appear in the Inferno, nor is there an absence of the emotions fear and doubt in the poem.

Actually, one of the last lines of the Inferno says, "Glimpsed the bright burden of the heavenly cars" (Canto XXXIV Ln. 137 in the Sayers' translation). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.101.245.178 (talk) 04:20 8 March 2007 (UTC).

Really? It doesn't in the original Italian which has lines 136 to 138 as:

"salimmo sù, el primo e io secondo,

tanto ch'i' vidi de le cose belle

che porta 'l ciel, per un pertugio tondo;"

and neither does it in Henry Wadsworth Longfellow's translation which has

"We mounted up, he first and I the second,

Till I beheld through a round aperture

Some of the beauteous things that Heaven doth bear;"

(which swaps the end of line 138 with the end of line 137 from the original) and neither in the German nor French translations. The last line 139 ends with stelle (stars), so maybe Sayers has a typo? -Wikianon 11:25, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Zorba the Greek?

There's quite a few references in Zorba the Greek, but their a little criptic even if they do say a lot about the main character. How overt should the references be? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.237.58.235 (talk) 09:39, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Popular culture?

What is popular culture? Maybe it has a technical meaning that I don't understand, but I didn't know that T.S. Eliot, Primo Levi, Pope Benedict XVI, and Karl Marx were part of it.--Oxonian2006 (talk) 12:24, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Popular culture often means garbage bin for factoids. Drmies (talk) 22:27, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

cleanup

It's gotta start somehow--cleanup. Entries need to have (secondary) sources and need to be of *some* magnitude. For instance, a line in a song or a metaphor in a book, that's not relevant (such as Mary Shelley's Frankenstein, "a thing such as even Dante could not have conceived"), since there's thousands of them. An album or a series of poem, that's appropriate (think Sepultura's Dante XXI). "Popular culture" is too often a catch phrase for "anything goes," but it doesn't have to be that way. Your help, esp. in referencing, is appreciated! Drmies (talk) 02:19, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

I agree that a cleanup is in order, but we should reach a consensus about the way to do it. I for one am of the opinion that even a mention consisting of a single line or sentence is relevant, if 1) we are certain that it refers to Dante (so: no mere mentions of "hell", "inferno", "damned" and the like), and 2) the work or the author mentioning Dante is notable in him/her/itself. I am the responsible for the addition of four or five items, ranging from whole works by Longfellow to a single sentence fron Stephen King, because I believe that in order to get a picture as clear as possible of the Dante's influence in the artists after him, it is useful and necessary to take all references in account. Per "Wikipedia is not paper", it is not the sheer bulk of the reference we should include that should keep us from including them, if they are relevant (in the sense of the two points above). Then again, this is my personal opinion, and I hope more editors will give theirs. Goochelaar (talk) 15:17, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey Goochelaar, I started on cleaning up. No one has jumped in yet. The lists are not in chronological order and I got to work on that, I've removed some all-too trivial mentions, and cut down individual entries (basically removed praise and extraneous detail). Feel free to help out, esp. with the sourcing. Also, feel free to add Italian or other references--I don't have easy access to or knowledge of that field, which must be huge. Drmies (talk) 17:16, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

New contributions

I would like to ask all new contributors to a. include their entries chronologically; b. check to see if you're not duplicating information; c. include a secondary reference to avoid the WP:OR charge--unreferenced material may be challenged and/or removed. What we have right now is a list, two-thirds of which is totally unreferenced, and that's not good in an encyclopedia. Thank you all for your help--in avoiding the charge of WP:Listcruft, and in preempting deletion. Drmies (talk) 05:35, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Suggestion to add: The Divine Comedy: Heaven, Purgatory, and Hell Revisited by Contemporary African Artists https://africa.si.edu/exhibitions/past-exhibitions/divine-comedy-2/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.78.192.218 (talk) 02:13, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Grim Fandango?

The video game Grim Fandango even though is reference to the Aztec myth, is it possible that game has references to this? Like the land of the dead and the other worlds below it and such? --Victory93 (talk) 05:14, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura

In the game there's a follower named Virgil who guides you through the game. There's also a follower using the same type of magic as Virgil who is named Dante. [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.72.188.152 (talk) 13:08, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

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