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Requested move 28 November 2019

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved - no support (closed by non-admin page mover) DannyS712 (talk) 06:31, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

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• Die hard (phrase) → Diehard
• Die hard → Die Hard (disambiguation)

– This is the primary topic for the lowercase term and requires no disambiguation, though it should be changed from a "phrase" to a word, as it is more commonly used. The film is the primary topic for the uppercase term, so it can stay that way, but the disambiguation should be moved to the proper noun version. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 11:34, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose – The article suggests it's a phrase, not a word. And case is not enough for a primarytopic grab. Dicklyon (talk) 06:11, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose, per the same reasoning in so many of Zxcvbnm's RMs of late. Being the original referent doesn't make the idiom the primary topic, and WP:PRIMARYTOPIC is clear about that. WP:DIFFCAPS does not work well, and we don't apply it, except when the capitalization scheme in question is quite distinctive (e.g. in mid-word). If anything the original Willis film is the primary topic, though the root phrase still has a lot of currency and has had some cultural impact aside from the film series. However, it was strongly associated with a battery brand long before the films, so we're back to pop-culture references, not the phrase as such. And no, this phrase is a phrase, not a word. If Zxcvbnm doesn't understand these things yet, then Zxcvbnm needs to stop doing RM nominations like this, as it's resulted in a tedious, repetitive mess to respond to. I think we all had better things to do with our Friday.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  18:05, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

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