Talk:David Adams (peace activist)

Latest comment: 6 years ago by Adams1peace in topic Suggested sources

Notable. Accept edit

The last decline was a bad review. In-line citations are not required for acceptance, and even then only for contentious statements. This David Adams is clearly notable. Start with. http://www.culture-of-peace.info/adams.html

The draft has been WP:Reference bombed, which makes reviewing hard.

I think the draft should be accepted. Also, User:Adams1peace, are you aware that you can simple remove the AfC templates and WP:Move it to mainspace? --SmokeyJoe (talk) 06:58, 16 January 2018 (UTC)Reply


Hi SmokeyJoe. I am not aware how to remove AfC templates and move draft to mainspace. How can I learn this? Thank you. Adams1peace (talk) 11:56, 16 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

Like this: See https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=David_Adams_%28peace_activist%29&type=revision&diff=820753624&oldid=820604973 --SmokeyJoe (talk) 12:12, 16 January 2018 (UTC)Reply
  • What you should do now is look for other pages that mention David Adams, or could mention David Adams, and improve them. Creating connections between different articles is a very good way to improve them. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 12:14, 16 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

I own this photo so it is free for re-use. I just don't know how to place it on the page. Adams1peace (talk) 12:22, 16 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

See Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 12:31, 16 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

I tried to place a code on the photo page to show that it is a photo for which I have the copyright. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adams1peace (talkcontribs) 14:19, 16 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

Needs better third party sourcing edit

This article is excessively sourced from connected sources. It needs more third party sources, and for the prose to take the context from these independent sources. Do you have some handy? Who has published comments on David Adams? We need these for the broad picture. Current sources are good for the specifics. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 12:40, 16 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

Because of the lack of third party sources, I included many references to invited lectures in an earlier version. Adams1peace (talk) 14:16, 16 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

The invitations to public lectures that I looked at (there were many, I didn't look at them all) failed in two ways:
(1) They were not reliably published;
(2) They did not include secondary source content. http://www.iipt.org/newsletter/2015/january-specialedition.html for example contains subject-coverage only thus: "Dr. David Adams was the Director of the UNESCO Culture of Peace Program and currently the Founder and Coordinator of the Culture of Peace Network." That is a factual statement, no commentary, analysis, criticism or any other transformative content.
The sort of thing that would help is something published, written by someone independent of David Adams, that reviews or comments. Two or much such things. A biography in a conference proceedings can work. Newspaper clipping clippings that say at least two sentences also works.
Based upon 18 invited international symposia lectures over 10 years, I feel confident that such third party coverage should exist, and ascribe difficult in finding them to the subject having a too-ambiguous name for google. Do you have newspaper clippings or published mini-biographies? --SmokeyJoe (talk) 00:52, 17 January 2018 (UTC)Reply
  • I've tried again to find third party sourcing. I've found a lot of the following:
    • journal articles by the subject - these are of no use to a Wikipedia article.
    • Subject-authored a number of newspaper/magazine articles - these cannot be used for this article.
    • websites associated with the subject - these may be used for specific fact citations of things mentioned in third party sources, but they cannot be the foundation of any paragraph.
I found two:
(1) https://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-koehler/peace-as-a-human-right_b_6118052.html
(2) https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/nasty-brutish-and-short-are-humans-dna-wired-to-kill/
Adams1peace, are there any more than these two? Articles or stories by others that directly comment on David Adams? --SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:24, 18 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

Culture of Peace edit

There is a lot of focus on this "Culture of Peace". It appears to be a more important topic than David Adams. It seems like an article on it is needed. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 12:45, 16 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

Yes, I plan to work on this. It is difficult, however, because it is very political. The culture of peace initiative at the United Nations was opposed by all of the Great Powers because of their vested interest in the culture of war. Adams1peace (talk) 14:12, 16 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

  • Similarly to the difficulty in googling "David Adams", googling "culture for peace" is difficult due to many false hits, and a very large number of non-independent hits. "Very political" is not a problem. A source commenting on it being very political would serve very well. Do you have one? What evidence can you provide that it is very political? --SmokeyJoe (talk) 00:55, 17 January 2018 (UTC)Reply
  • User:Adams1peace/Culture_of_peace is a good start. Definitely notable, it needs an article. However, your drafting is clearly WP:COI-affected. You care too much and are too close. You should try a more distant, even disinterested, perspective. Start every section with what distant dispassionate independent others have said about the Culture of Peace programme. And I urge you, get a dozen or so edits improving something less connected to yourself. You need to learn the style of a distant objective writing style. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 20:48, 24 January 2018 (UTC)Reply
Thank you. I'll work on it - and some other pages as well. Adams1peace (talk) 06:20, 25 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

note from lacy edit

Hi Smokey Joe, SmokeyJoe

I know that in-line citations are not something to decline a draft for. But as you said here: The draft has been WP:Reference bombed, which makes reviewing hard.

When I got the draft, it appeared there were no references at all, but alas when I was looking over the draft there were tons of external links in the draft that needed to be reformatted before going to pass the draft. The creator and I worked on converting them together. I just finished with the conversions a couple hours ago. I tried my best to get the draft down where I could really evaluate it. I am sorry, if you think, after all that work and collaborating with the creator as well that I did a bad review. Please look in the history to see the state of the draft at first. I will just go away. Bye. Lacypaperclip (talk) 12:46, 16 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

Hi Lacypaperclip. I didn't realise you were the reviewer. I thought it was someone else. I saw you working with User:Adams1peace, and found that very encouraging. I did my own google searching on the subject, and decided that he was notable enough for an article, and I believe that is enough to put it into mainspace. The article needs a lot of work I am starting to see. Please don't go away. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 12:50, 16 January 2018 (UTC)Reply
I will just leave this one to you SmokeyJoe. I was definitely going to pass the draft. I am glad you put it to main space. The creator deserved a pass or a move, Good on'ya Lacypaperclip (talk) 13:21, 16 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

Suggested sources edit

Copied from User_talk:Adams1peace#Guidelines_when_you_are_the_subject_of_coverage_in_Wikipedia. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 06:49, 20 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

Here are the results of my search for third-party sources, i.e. independent external references, corresponding to 10 of the 36 footnotes in David Adams (peace activist). [16 footnotes are already external, and the other 10 are books.] When you have the time, could you look at these 10 to see if the new references are appropriate? And if so, can we retain at the same time some of the links to the actual studies which are not independent in addition to those that are independent?

1, 5, 6 - (brain mechanisms of aggression) - https://vdocuments.site/effects-of-midbrain-central-gray-lesions-on-spontaneous-and-electrically-induced.html

2-4 - already external references

7 - (Mink brain size) https://www.nature.com/articles/ijo201065

8 - (Gold ovulation) The results were not confirmed at first but have been confirmed more recently: https://academic.oup.com/humrep/article/19/7/1539/2356646 and http://pubmedcentralcanada.ca/pmcc/articles/PMC4127088/

9 - (women warriors) https://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1003&context=nebanthro

10-14 - already external references

15 (El Salvador): http://unesdoc.unesco.org/images/0009/000958/095819eo.pdf

16 (Mozambique): http://unesdoc.unesco.org/images/0009/000988/098861Eo.pdf

17 (UNESCO book) : https://www.academia.edu/7783693/Education_for_a_Culture_of_Peace

18-21 - already external references

22 - co-authored reference with Federico Mayor - can't this be considered as external, given that Mayor was the UNESCO Director-General?

23 - (early history) - http://revistas.javerianacali.edu.co/index.php/perspectivasinternacionales/article/view/1290/1821 or https://www.academia.edu/7783693/Education_for_a_Culture_of_Peace

34-36 - external references

That leaves the following which are books.

24 - internet book 25-33 published books

Is it necessary or useful to search for external references to the books?

Also, is it possible to link not only to the Amazon page but in addition to the full copy of the book which is freely available on my website?

Another question: Do you think any of the following external references are useful?

http://www.peacedayphilly.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Culture-of-Peace-Description-2-14.pdf

http://www.doonething.org/heroes/adams.htm

http://communicationforpeace.org/the-work-for-a-culture-of-peace/

Adams1peace (talk) 19:45, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

  • Adams1peace, thanks for these. You are using a non-standard word, "external". Do you mean "independent" or "third party", the quality of a source that we value here? --SmokeyJoe (talk) 06:53, 20 January 2018 (UTC)Reply


9 - (women warriors) https://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1003&context=nebanthro
10-14 - already external references
15 (El Salvador): http://unesdoc.unesco.org/images/0009/000958/095819eo.pdf
16 (Mozambique): http://unesdoc.unesco.org/images/0009/000988/098861Eo.pdf
All irrelevant. You seem to completely not understand. We need reliable sources that talk about David Adams for an article on David Adams. Citations to his work are not commentary on the person or even on his work. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 07:03, 20 January 2018 (UTC)Reply
    • 17 (UNESCO book) : https://www.academia.edu/7783693/Education_for_a_Culture_of_Peace
      This one has something. It contains "David Adams who was one key person for developing the UNESCO strategy, gives the following definition which combines the approaches taken by two important UN resolutions: the Programme of Action on a Culture of Peace adopted in 1999; and the 1998 UN resolution on the culture of peace:" This is useful for citing the statement "David Adams was one key person for developing the UNESCO strategy on the Culture of Peace". Mostly, the source contains information about Culture of Peace. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 07:07, 20 January 2018 (UTC)Reply
    • 23 - (early history) - http://revistas.javerianacali.edu.co/index.php/perspectivasinternacionales/article/view/1290/1821
      "Early history" is always a good start for writing from a third party distant perspective.

      Section "'Collaborating on superordinate goals" ...
      "This was David Adams' (2003) original idea for promoting a culture of peace in El Salvador in the early 1990s, for example, which sought to bring together members from warring factions of a bitter civil war to work together on long term projects of mutual benefit through what Adams describes as “cross conflict participation” (p 6). These included collaborative efforts to improve literacy and citizenship education across the divided lines of the population."

      I'm afraid I could not work out what in the preceding unquoted text the first word "This" refers to. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 07:27, 20 January 2018 (UTC)Reply
      There are several further mentions of Adams, but there are little more than mentions and citations to Adam's publications. The document is about the Culture of Peace, it is not about David Adams. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 07:30, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
      Reply
The word "This" refers to the theme of the section, i.e. Collaborating on superordinate goals. I brought this methodology to UNESCO from classical psychology in which I was trained at Yale. It is perhaps the most important of all social psychology principles and was based on the famous "Robber's Cave Experiment." In fact, I "ghost-wrote" an article on this subject for the UNESCO Director-General which appeared in the first issue of the new journal of peace psychology of the American Psychological Association: http://www.culture-of-peace.info/vita/1995/Mayor.pdf Adams1peace (talk) 15:10, 20 January 2018 (UTC)Reply
    • http://www.peacedayphilly.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Culture-of-Peace-Description-2-14.pdf
      Contains the following, which looks useful:

      UNESCO Culture of Peace Programme and Manifesto 2000 - David Adams
      David Adams designed UNESCO's Culture of Peace Programme in 1992, and was the Director of the International Year for the Culture of Peace in 1998. The UNESCO (United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization) approach was later confirmed by the UN General Assembly in their Declaration and Programme of Action on a Culture of Peace (A/RES/53/243) in 1999. The strategies behind the International Year centered upon involving civil society as much as possible. The specific initiatives included the collection of some 75 million signatures worldwide in support of a culture of peace, with the Manifesto 2000 Project. Another initiative was the Culture of Peace News Network (CPNN), a worldwide network of locally-based websites reporting news in support of a culture of peace. CPNN is where readers exchange information about events, experiences, books, music, and web news that promote a culture of peace. CPNN is owned and managed by the Culture of Peace Corporation, based in Connecticut (USA) and composed of youth teams. The founder and president of the Corporation is David Adams. David has been prolific in his Culture of Peace related writings, blogs, websites, trainings and video programs. He is also a leading member and organizer of the City of New Haven Peace Commission in Connecticut.

      --SmokeyJoe (talk) 07:36, 20 January 2018 (UTC)Reply
This directly connects David Adams to the Culture of Peace Programme and Culture of Peace News Network. I think a good idea is to go to Culture of Peace News Network and see whether David Adams is worth a mention there. Was David Adams noticed by media as having a role in the Culture of Peace News Network? --SmokeyJoe (talk) 07:43, 20 January 2018 (UTC)Reply
Since I run the Culture of Peace News Network, it is not at all an independent source. Adams1peace (talk) 15:10, 20 January 2018 (UTC)Reply
This is independent of me; I don't have any contact with the Emily Fund Adams1peace (talk) 15:10, 20 January 2018 (UTC)Reply
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Here are more third-party sources, hopefully useful.


http://www.academia.edu/7418068/_Seville_Statement_on_Violence_Encyclopedia_entry_

The utmost achievement of the [Seville] statement was its use in the field of peace education. The UNESCO international congress in 1989 recognized the statement as an important groundwork for the work of peacebuilding and promoting peace. Psychologist David Adams, one of the statement organizers, was appointed in 1992 as a specialist in the UNESCO Culture of Peace Program, an international network for education against violence. Later on,the UN General Assembly declared the year 2000 as the International Year for the Culture of Peace, which contributed to the educational efforts utilizing the statement.


http://www.brainleadersandlearners.com/peace/robust-peace-works-wonders-myth-or-reality/

Imagine our world communities if we celebrated more heroes such as Dr. David Adams. A retired Yale researcher, Adams helped create a global movement toward a culture of peace. Have Adams’ peace policies reduced violence or aggression as you see it?http://metapsychology.mentalhelp.net/poc/view_doc.php?type=book&id=3965

--- https://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1003&context=nebanthro

Abstract: In 1983, David B. Adams published "Why are there so few Women Warriors?" This important paper brought to light the traditional conflict between marriage and war. . . . David B. Adams' paper, "Why are there so few Women Warriors?" (1983) was an important alternative explanation to why women, more or less cross-culturally, do not engage in warfare. . . While there can be no doubt that Adams' research came to a valuable and relevant conclusion, there are many questions that he leaves unanswered or at least answered unsatisfactorily.

--- https://www.sapiens.org/evolution/human-violence-evolution/

[regarding scientific work - the source is already used for culture of peace:]

Around the same time, David Adams, a neurophysiologist and psychologist at Wesleyan University, was inspired to investigate the brain mechanisms underlying aggression. He spent decades studying how different parts of the brain reacted when engaged in aggression. By using electrical stimulation of specific brain regions and through creating various lesions in mammalian brains, he sought to understand the origins of different antagonistic behaviors. . . .


http://metapsychology.mentalhelp.net/poc/view_doc.php?type=book&id=3965

In the scholarly debate over violence issues, some scholars--for example, David Adams, creator of UNESCO's Culture of Peace Initiative--are most vocal in their rejection of biological explanations of human behavior. It is not that they fail to recognize the strong impulses toward aggression that can reside in the human brain. As aggression scientists themselves, they are well aware of the power of nature in shaping our actions. It is rather that, since their "Seville Statement on Violence" (presented to the United Nations in 1986), scientists such as Adams have played down the biological aspects of human behavior because they believe the emphasis upon biological explanations for behavior are unhelpful and perhaps counterproductive, deflecting attention from the treatable causes of human negative behaviors--the ideological prejudices encoded in our modern "cultures of war." As long as we believe behaviors are largely nurture-produced, rather than nature-produced, we will see the sense in reconfiguring our societies as suggested by Adam's Culture of Peace Initiative.

--- http://eprints.ucm.es/13354/1/XXXIII_CICA_book_of_abstracts.pdf

Efficiently coordinated by David Adams, at that time professor at Wesleyan University, we exchanged the latest information about animal behavior, psychology, brain research, genetics, and other related sciences. A draft was elaborated and sent to all of us to study. Finally J. Martín Ramírez, at that time professor at Seville University, convened in his university almost thirty scientists from 13 countries and many different disciplines on the occasion of the 7th CICA, dedicated to Biology and Violence. We met for one week in La Rábida. In 1492 this place became famous, since Columbus started his discovering trip to the New World from there. And after almost five centuries and one week of practical seclusion, the final Seville Statement on Violence (SSV) was born - hopefully giving rise to another new world - a world of Peace.

  • * * * * * biographical information associated with invited lectures * * * * *

https://campus.plymouth.edu/sidore/2010-2011/

David Adams is one of the key figures in the culture of peace movement. A research psychologist by training, Adams’s interest in the causes of human aggression led him to his pioneering work on anger and aggression and the human brain in the 1960s and 1970s. Following a 23-year career as professor of psychology at Wesleyan University, Adams spent more than a decade at UNESCO, developing national culture of peace projects, researching and developing the culture of peace concept, and training in peace-building and conflict resolution. Now retired, Adams travels the world working with youth and promoting the culture of peace. He has authored several papers and books, including The History of the Culture of War, World Peace through the Town Hall, and I Have Seen the Promised Land: A Utopian Novella.


http://www.clarku.edu/article/clark-brings-worcester-community-peace-fair-back-after-20-year-hiatus

Adams retired from UNESCO in 2001. He designed their Culture of Peace Programme and directed the Unit for The International Year for the Culture of Peace (designated by the United Nations as the year 2000) with the aim of celebrating and encouraging a culture of peace. At UNESCO, Adams’ responsibilities included development of national culture of peace projects, research and development of the culture of peace concept and training in peace-building and conflict resolution. Prior to joining UNESCO, Adams served on the faculty at Wesleyan University for 23 years.


http://earthcharter.org/news-post/earth-charter-in-the-world-congress-of-peace-in-the-americas-brazil/

While working at UNESCO, Dr. Adams was the director of the Unit for the International Year for the Culture of Peace (IYCP), proclaimed for the Year 2000 by the United Nations General Assembly, which was the starting point for the International Decade for a Culture of Peace and Non-violence for the Children of the World (ranged from 2001 to 2010). Also the Global Movement for a Culture of Peace, for which Dr Adams was responsible for its World Report at the mid-point of the Decade in the year of 2005.


http://herder.com.mx/es/topic-article/inauguran-congreso-construyendo-comunidades-en-paz-en-queretaro

David Adams, destacado neurobiólogo norteamericano, ex funcionario de Naciones Unidas ha sido un movilizador de conciencias en favor de la igual dignidad de todos los seres humanos, de la justicia, de la libertad y de la responsabilidad desempeñó una importantísima función en la preparación del “Decenio Internacional de una Cultura de Paz y No Violencia para los Niños del Mundo”, aprobado por la Asamblea de la ONU en 1998; del Manifiesto sobre una Cultura de Paz, uno de los documentos que ha recibido mayor número de adhesiones a escala mundial; y, por último, en el mes de septiembre de 1999, fue promotor de la Declaración y Programa de Acción sobre una Cultura de Paz, adoptada por la Asamblea General de las Naciones Unidas, que permitía iniciar el nuevo siglo y milenio con la gran esperanza.

google translation:

David Adams, prominent North American neurobiologist, former official of the United Nations has been a mobilizer of consciences in favor of the equal dignity of all human beings, of justice, freedom and responsibility played an important role in the preparation of the " International Decade of a Culture of Peace and Non-Violence for the Children of the World ", approved by the UN Assembly in 1998; of the Manifest on a Culture of Peace, one of the documents that has received the greatest number of accessions on a world scale; and finally, in September 1999, he was the promoter of the Declaration and Program of Action on a Culture of Peace, adopted by the General Assembly of the United Nations, which allowed us to start the new century and millennium with great hope.


http://www.humanities.mcmaster.ca/~gandhi/festival/booklets/gandhi-booklet-2008.pdf

Dr. David Adams retired in 2001 from UNESCO where he was the Director of the Unit for the International Year for the Culture of Peace (IYCP), proclaimed for the Year 2000 by the United Nations General Assembly. During the IYCP, 75 million people were mobilized to sign the Manifesto 2000, promising to promote a culture of peace in their daily lives. The IYCP laid the basis for the International Decade for a Culture of Peace and Non-violence for the Children of the World (2001-2010) and the Global Movement for a Culture of Peace, for which Dr Adams was responsible for its World Report at the mid-point of the Decade in 2005.

  • * * * * in other languages * * * * * *

http://www.laraforfred.se/skola/fredskultur

translated from Swedish

Into the new millennium preparations were made for the Manifesto 2000 for peace and non-violence. In 2000, the International Year for the Culture of Peace was named. In 2000, one percent of the world's population (75 million people) took part of the manifesto and signed it. The work was followed by a World Report for the Culture of Peace . 1,000 organizations from 100 countries participated and resulted in 3000 pages of text and photos. This according to the Culture of Peace News Network, cpnn-world.org . The CPNN was created by David Adams, who has been very active in UNESCO's work with and for a Culture of Peace. The website is developing and changing continuously. Old articles can be found and describes how to do it through Google to find them.

  • * * * * * * * Portuguese * * * * * * *

https://lucianasalazarsalgado.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/ii-jied.pdf

David Adams foi o responsável pelo desenvolvimento do “Culture of Peace Programme” da UNESCO, em 1992, e Diretor da “Unit for the International Year for the Culture of Peace” até 2001. É também o criador do site “Global Movement for a Culture of Peace”, que traz informações e documentações sobre a Cultura de Paz, e um dos principais responsáveis pela “Culture of Peace News Network” (CPNN).

David Adams was responsible for the development of UNESCO's Culture of Peace Program, in 1992, and Director of the "Unit for the International Year for the Culture of Peace" until 2001. He is also the creator of the "Global Movement for a Culture of Peace" website, which provides information and documentation on the Culture of Peace, and one of the main responsible persons for the Culture of Peace News Network (CPNN).


http://www.pucsp.br/ecopolitica/downloads/cultura_paz_nacoes_unidas.pdf


http://www.letras.ufscar.br/linguasagem/leedim/projetos/016.pdf

The two preceding sources are theses about the importance of the decade for culture of peace using Adams as principle source


http://www.comitepaz.org.br/David_Adams.htm

https://gradoceroprensa.wordpress.com/2015/08/04/cultura-de-paz-una-obra-de-david-adams/

Adams1peace (talk) 14:18, 20 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

Should I go ahead and make a new version of David Adams (peace activist) using some of the above third-party references, or is better for me to wait for one of you editors to do this??? Adams1peace (talk) 23:05, 23 January 2018 (UTC)Reply
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Adams1peace (talkcontribs) 14:12, 20 January 2018 (UTC)Reply 
  • You should wait for others. These sources are mentions of Adams, mentions of his involvement, what he did, but Adams is not the focus of the source. Note the lack of adjectives. They are not Italic about Adams. This is going to be hard work. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 20:54, 24 January 2018 (UTC)Reply