Talk:Dark Star

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Mudwater in topic Italics
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Split edit

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I want to split off one of the Dark Star bands (the post-Levitation rock group) into an article of its own, but I don't know what to call it. Dark_Star_(band) would refer to any one of (probably) hundreds of different groups. (In fact, there's even a couple of reviews somewhere comparing pieces of music by a number of different bands that went by that name. But I digress.) Does anyone have suggestions for differentiating topics of this kind?

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Merge edit

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A merge of Dark Star and Darkstar has been proposed. It makes sense - a precedent was set with the merging of Black Hawk and Blackhawk (Emperor 00:44, 31 March 2006 (UTC))Reply

Agreed. People searching for a Dark Star reference may not know which is the correct spelling for their particular query. Merging the two spellings onto one page would ease navigation. tylerwillis 20:20, 14 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

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Italics edit

@Ans: It's right there in the guideline you keep pointing to: "titles (such as for books and movies) may need to be italicized to conform with the style guidance on titles". Per MOS:TITLE, titles of books, films, TV series, albums, video games, and several other types of works take italics — so they take italics on disambiguation pages as well. There are several examples of italicized entries in MOS:DAB. Please self revert to the correct formatting.—ShelfSkewed Talk 21:40, 25 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Yes, that's right. Those entries should be italicized. Thanks. Mudwater (Talk) 22:23, 25 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
The guideline said,
DO NOT emphasize the link with bolding or italics, although titles (such as for books and movies) may need to be italicized to conform with the style guidance on titles
This mean that, though the titles need to be italicized to conform with the MOS:TITLE, nevertheless do not italicize them in disambiguation page.
--Ans (talk) 02:54, 26 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
That means that, in the disambiguation entries, we should use italics where the titles of articles are in italics -- for example, Dark Star (film) -- but we should not use italics for emphasis, like I just did there with the word "not". Mudwater (Talk) 03:40, 26 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
As Mudwater says, the general rule is that you should not use bolding or italics merely for emphasis on things that would not otherwise use bolding or italics (people, places, things, etc.). Titled works that are normally italicized are the exceptions to the general rule (that's what the "although" means in the section you've quoted above) and should be italicized. Your understanding of the guideline is simply mistaken, Ans. Cleaning up dab pages is about 90% of what I do here, and I can assure you that we do italicize things on disambiguation pages that are italicized elsewhere according to MOS:TITLE.—ShelfSkewed Talk 04:17, 26 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Mudwater: Just as an observation, the guideline only states that the link should not be emphasized - there is nothing wrong with text emphasis (from a guideline point of view, anyway) so what you did, and indeed what I just did is just fine. I can see argument against using such emphasis outside of talk pages (oops, I did it again,) but it's not actually proscribed behaviour. Chaheel Riens (talk) 06:02, 26 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Chaheel Riens: You're right, the guideline says not to emphasize the link itself with bold or italics. Thanks for pointing that out. Mudwater (Talk) 10:16, 26 September 2020 (UTC)Reply