Talk:Daesung

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I know that this page has been deleted many times over the past few months, but it was always an issue of sources, not notability. I believe the sources on the page would be more than enough, but please comment if there are any other issues. SKS (talk) 06:08, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Car Accident

I'm wondering why my edit is being removed. Someone care to explain? I added references and all and I went according as the article said just to hope people don't get the wrong idea. Oh okay it's back I think ._. But just in case since it was removed just now.

Car Accident/Investigation (2011)

It has been reported that Daesung was involved in a car accident on May 31st at around 1:30am. According to police reports, Daesung hit a motorcyclist lying on the ground from a previous accident at Yanghwa Bridge. It is said by the taxi driver who was also involved in the accident, that Daesung had been driving behind a car at an estimated speed of 60km/h, and due to the car in front changing lanes too quickly, Daesung was unable to see the motorcyclist on the road and passed the motorcyclist. It has been confirmed that Daesung was not under the influence of alcohol. Investigations are currently ongoing.

Daesung had been greatly affected by the accident and has been locking himself up in his room, refusing to talk to his other band members and his family. There have been numerous support extended to both Daesung and the deceased Hyun, such as the trending of #wesupportDaesung on twitter by celebrities such as Jay Park and concern shown by Lee Hyori and pianist Jung Jae Hyung and fan projects such as message books.

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Car accident section way too long

This section is way too long compared to the rest of the article. It's basically a complete storytelling of the accident, which is NOT in scope for an encyclopedia. It's like a news report for Wikinews. --小龙 (Timish) # ^{xiǎolóng de xìnxiāng} 14:47, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Car accident section is way too short

Daesung killed a man. It was a massive scandal. This article glosses over it as if the author didn't want people to see it. This is clear bias. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.172.3.254 (talk) 22:51, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Looks like they figure that the best way to handle the issue was to censor it entirely. 24.85.252.83 (talk) 06:07, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Daesung

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Daesung's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "gaon":

• From 2NE1 discography: Gaon Chart rankings:
  
  • To Anyone

  Hong, Lucia (September 16, 2010). "Gaon Weekly Album Chart: Sep 5-11". 10Asia. 10Asia. Retrieved January 28, 2011.

  • "Baksu Chyeo", "Go Away", "Can't Nobody", "Apa (Slow)"

  Hong, Lucia (September 30, 2010). "Gaon Weekly Singles Chart: Sep 19-25". 10Asia. 10Asia. Retrieved January 28, 2011.

  • "Kiss"

  Yoon, Hyeon-jin (September 11, 2009). "산다라박 '키스' 온라인 석권‥2NE1 솔로활동도 대성공". Newsen News (in Korean). Newsen. Retrieved March 22, 2011. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |trans_title= ignored (|trans-title= suggested) (help)

  • "Please Don't Go"

  Gil, Hye-seong (December 1, 2009). "2NE1 씨엘 & 민지 듀엣곡, 각종 주간차트 1위 석권". Star News (in Korean). MoneyToday. Retrieved March 22, 2011. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |trans_title= ignored (|trans-title= suggested) (help)

  • Other albums and songs:

  "Gaon Chart Search: 2NE1". Gaon Chart (in Korean). Korea Music Content Industry Association. Retrieved October 30, 2010.

• From Alive (EP): (in Korean) "Gaon Search - BIG BANG". Gaon. February 29, 2012.
• From Gaon Chart: Seo, Jung-min (February 23, 2010). "대중 음악 공인 '가온 차트' 출범". The Hankyoreh (in Korean). The Hankyoreh. Retrieved October 3, 2010. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |trans_title= ignored (|trans-title= suggested) (help)
• From G-Dragon discography: "Gaon Chart Search: G-Dragon". Gaon Chart (in Korean). Korea Music Content Industry Association. Retrieved December 19, 2010.
• From Big Bang (South Korean band): "Big Bang on the Gaon Chart". Korea Music Content Industry Association. 2011-03-04. Retrieved 2011-03-04.
• From Big Bang discography: "검섹결과 – 빅뱅". Gaon Chart (in Korean). Korea Music Content Industry Association. Retrieved 12 April 2011. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |trans_title= ignored (|trans-title= suggested) (help)
• From Taeyang discography: (in Korean) Gaon Chart.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 13:35, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Rename Request

• Daesung → Kang Dae-sung (move) – Although BigBang members are mostly known for their stage names in the cases of T.O.P, Taeyang, G-Dragon and Seungri, Daesung's stagename is actually part of his real name and many V.I.P's know his surname Kang. I think as per WP:NCP, it's only fitting for the page name to include the surname. Tibbydibby (talk) 01:22, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

• oppose. A lot of people use their first names as stage names, for example Tarkan. Daesung's digital solos were realeased under his stage name Daesung, not his full name, see single cover 1, single cover 2. That's enough evidence that this is a stage name. I also don't see the reasoning if articles of other Korean singers can be left with their first names, like Jaejoong, why Daesung would be any different? 小龙 (Timish) # ^{xiǎolóng de xìnxiāng} 10:17, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

• • I get what you mean, but other people (like Taeyeon and Bom) follow the WP:NCP guidelines with the naming process. Just like Beyonce and Oprah. Daesung should follow the WP:NCP guidelines as well, the other members have stagenames not closely related to their real names. Only Daesung does. Tibbydibby (talk) 20:04, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Then all the others in the category should be consistently renamed as well. What makes Jaejoong any different? 小龙 (Timish) # ^{xiǎolóng de xìnxiāng} 10:20, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

I saw the move request reasoning at U-know's article and it says that Korean singers should be referred to in the way media most often refers them to. Daesung is rarely named Kang Daesung in the media. He is known by his first name, just like Junsu, Jaejoong and the others. Your reasons for the move are not valid... daesung gives 6,500,000 results in Google, Kang Daesung gives 1,300,000. Newspapers like Chosun Ilbo, CNN, refer to him as Daesung only. This is a stage name. 小龙 (Timish) # ^{xiǎolóng de xìnxiāng} 21:06, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

• Oppose per User:Teemeah. Also, please don't bring up the Girls' Generation members, as those were essentially moved without consensus. There is one editor on those articles who refuses to allow them to stay as mononyms, even though it was mutually decided long ago to leave them as single-name pages. SKS (talk) 21:30, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

My mistake

I apologize for marking this edit as a minor edit, it was not suppose to be I just did it as a force of habit. Sorry about that. Inter&anthro (talk) 05:10, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

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Legal case

About the Legal case section, the case about Daesung building is still not confirmed, all the claims are from TV Channels called "Channel A", and there is no official invitation results about it, even all the previous investigations showed nothing on that building, so why there's talk about it in Daesung page? It's not confirmed, so it should be deleted till everything is cleared. You opinions please. GD.BB (talk) 20:03, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

It made news from reliable sources, if Korea Times and Korea Herald are reliable. Journalists don't normally publish fake news unless they can verify it. Wikipedia isn't here to censor stuff, what's reported may or may not be confirmed - but it is a pretty big legal case and will repercussions for his career and the could tie into other Korean entertainment industry scandals. Evaders99 (talk) 23:17, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

The investigation is related to some tenants in the building, who allegedly could have violated the country's sanitary laws. Although the building is owned by Daesung's estate, the case in question is a third party (there wasn't any faulty act of contract on the part from landlord), which leads me to think that this case wouldn't need to be such a highlighted in a specific section and rather be mentioned throughout the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 179.228.123.230 (talk) 19:40, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

@Evaders99: It is kind of irrelevant to the life and career of the subject of the article, whether it made news or not, it's simply just yellow press information, even if it was republished by the Korea Times and such. They frequently republish Kpop related information, even if it is a rumour, unverified or just generally unimportant, because it brings clicks and readership. Just because something is reported by the media it doesn't necessarily have to be reported by Wikipedia, too. This case is irrelevant to Daesung with regards to his notability and biography in Wikipedia. As unrelated as news reports about his hair color changes or the type of wine he likes - and Korea Herald and the like do publish such kind of articles, too, much like the yellow press. Again, because Kpop is clickbait to many Korea fans. Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 17:31, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

If there's no lasting impact, then I agree. We'll have to see if that's the case. Evaders99 (talk) 07:17, 1 November 2019 (UTC)