Talk:Crusades/Archive 20
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Edit by Count your Garden by the Flowers
@Count your Garden by the Flowers: In this diff, you changed
In 1199, Pope Innocent III began the practice of proclaiming crusades against Christian heretics.
to {{quote|In 1199, Pope Innocent III began the practice of proclaiming crusades against apostate Christian communities, called heretics by the Latin Church.
But the given reference does not mention "apostate" at all. What gives? 2601:547:B05:1BF8:BDAB:76F2:81A5:3A1 (talk) 03:57, 11 April 2023 (UTC) 2601:547:B05:1BF8:BDAB:76F2:81A5:3A1 (talk) 03:57, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
- I've removed this - we don't generally have citations in lead Norfolkbigfish (talk) 08:38, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
Use of Setton in Bibliography
While the use of such dated and debatable works is another argument, the citations and bibliography reference were incorrectly structured. As formatted this generated the error Harv warning. There is no link pointing to this citation. The anchor is named CITEREF Setton 1969-1989. It is also more useful to cite to each of the authors of the articles, rather than the Editor. Norfolkbigfish (talk) 06:53, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- See the entry for H.A.R Gibb in the Bibliography for better formatting. Norfolkbigfish (talk) 06:59, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 13 May 2023
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After a brief counter-siege, Nūr-ad-Din took the city. The men were massacred, with the women and children enslaved, and the walls razed. [81]
The source of this statement is unclear. 51.179.96.52 (talk) 10:06, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 13:51, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
Motivation
Hi GoutComplex, I have reverted this good faith edit https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Crusades&diff=prev&oldid=1178591564. Although the "younger son" theory did exist it has fallen out of favour now. This is largely evidential, crusading was massively expensive, the chances of success were slim and most of the early crusaders returned home rather than grabbed territory. If it was restored it would need to reflect wider academic views if only for balance. Norfolkbigfish (talk) 07:17, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 1 November 2023
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In the Terminology section, change the phrase: "earned participants forgiveness for all confessed sins." to "earned participants remittance from penalties due to their confessed sins."
The cited source uses the words "removing from participants all penalties for existing confessed sin." Removal of penalties, is not the same as forgiveness of sins. In Catholic understanding, a sin that has been forgiven may still have penalties/consequences. It's the removal of these penalties that was promised by the indulgences associated with the crusades. (See more information about indulgences here: Indulgence.) 2cj (talk) 10:27, 1 November 2023 (UTC)