Talk:Creative Australia

Modern-day relevance

Shouldn't there be a section on the organisation's viability and worth? Apparently it can only fund 60 to 70 per cent of its clientele.Hide&Reason 07:05, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Move

Why was this article moved here? On Wikipedia we generally title articles according to common usage, and in this case, the title should be as it was: Australia Council.--cj | talk 10:53, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

I disagree. How do you know that Australia Council is common usage? The logo itself says Australia Council for the Arts and that is where most people would hear about it. --Mdhowe 03:17, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I doesn't particularly matter, but a search of a news database yields more results for "Australia Council". The real issue here is the cut-and-paste move; please in future only use the move function so page histories remain intact.--cj | talk 12:31, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Right, sorry about that. I will remember that next time. About the title, a search for "Australia Council" will turn up more results because of the shear number of "Australia Council's for Something or Other", seriously, there are heaps of them. I think this is the best way to avoid ambiguity. --Mdhowe 01:33, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

First, there was the Australian Council for the Arts. Then Whitlam restructured it, added some functions previously performed by other bodies, and renamed it the Australia Council. Section 4 of the Australia Council Act 1975 says: "There is established by this Act a Council by the name of the Australia Council".

For a while, people informally still used the old title (because the new title made no reference to the arts, and it's not immediately obvious what it does, from the title alone). These days, it's very well known what the Australia Council does. But if anyone still uses an informal title with the word "arts" in it, it would be the old title, the one with the -an: Australian Council for the Arts.

Now, their website calls itself "Australia Council for the Arts". This is still not the formally correct name of the organisation, because s.4 of the Act is still in force, but it seems to have some legal authority - perhaps a formally registered trading name for "Australia Council". It’s obvious why they need to make it clear what they’re about – as mentioned above, a Google search for "Australia Council" would result in hundreds of hits for other bodies – although, to be fair, 6 of the first 7 hits get us to the right place, so they’ve obviously made some arrangements to have it come up first.

After all that, I think I agree that "Australia Council for the Arts" is supported, and is the best solution, even if it’s not strictly correct. But I’m not sure that " ... informally known as the Australia Council for the Arts" is the best way of putting it, because it does seem to have some degree of formality. It may be best to find out about the trading name aspect I mentioned above. -- JackofOz (talk) 02:10, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

British?

Wondering what fuel4arts.com is doing in this article when it seems to be British - unless I missed something. In the first page it blogs about "furniture London" the European Research Council & Arts Council England & I can't find ref to it being Australian or AC funded. Manytexts (talk) 01:10, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Founded by Gorton or Holt?

There is a contradiction here.--Jack Upland (talk) 05:18, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

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Foundation of the Australia Council

As Jack Upland has pointed out, there seem to be some contradictory information regarding the founding of the Australia Council for the Arts. Who founded it (Gorton or Holt) and when was it founded (1967 or 1973).

The 1967 date seems to have been added on 17:27, 9 September 2014 by 192.43.227.18 without a reference. --Jonathan O'Donnell (talk) 02:08, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

After a bit of digging, it would appear that it was established in 1967 or 1968. The relevent references are: "Late in 1967, at the suggestion of Prime Minister Holt, Coombs retired from his position as Governor of the Reserve Bank and assumed two other onerous and important tasks, chairmanship of two new bodies, the Council for the Arts and the Council for Aboriginal Affairs." - https://www.science.org.au/fellowship/fellows/biographical-memoirs/herbert-cole-coombs-1906-1997#aboriginal%20affairs "In 1968 the John Gorton government followed up an initiative of Harold Holt, and established the Australian Council for the Arts to administer federal support for the arts sector." - https://liveperformance.com.au/hof-profile/h-c-nugget-coombs-1906-1997/ --Jonathan O'Donnell (talk) 02:46, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

It was announced by Holt shortly before his disappearance [1]. Without doing too much digging, presumably Gorton followed through some time thereafter. Not sure what the 1973 date refers to. Ivar the Boneful (talk) 05:00, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

Name change to Creative Australia

Today it's been announced they will change their name to Creative Australia. At what point does the article get moved/renamed? [2] Jimmyjrg (talk) 23:52, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Scratch that. Creative Australia will still be managed by Australia Council for the Arts, according to the PM's announcement. Jimmyjrg (talk) 00:53, 30 January 2023 (UTC)