Talk:Constantinople/Archive 2

Latest comment: 1 year ago by 24.57.160.154 in topic Byzantium (Not Byzantion)
Archive 1 Archive 2

In regards to point of view on Ottoman era

The phrasing on how Mehmed II and his troops were described while entering Constantinople in 1453 felt way too provocative or unflattering in manner compared to how I as a Muslim learned about Fatih and his conquest (where civilians were told to have been untouched and unharmed by Fetih's army, IIRC), I fear it might rub the wrong way considering the figure and setting is of importance in Islamic history as well. Perhaps we should add perspectives from modern Muslim historians on how they see the events just to avoid any contentions due to the levelling of the POV presented from both Christian and Muslim sides? - Anumengelamun (talk) 09:03, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

I have to agree that the section on the Ottoman era seems very off. Half of the section deals with the fate of people sheltering in a single building in the immediate aftermath of the city's fall. The other deals with resettlement plans in the following decade. This seems very unbalanced for a section which purportedly is about 500 years of the city's history. Jeff8765 (talk) 05:13, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

Well, as @Jeff8765 has stated, it's not so much that the information there is wrong, it's that it's incomplete. Byzantine Constantinople gets 10 sections, while the Ottomans get only one, which only describes the plunder (consensus exists that it did happen, whether or not Muslim POV sources accept it or not) right after the fall, but not the 400 years of relative coexistence afterwards. Definitely WP:UNDUE, and might just be POV. Uness232 (talk) 17:59, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
See the History of Istanbul article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.111.45.222 (talk) 19:55, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
That does not mean much in this case, as this page purports to explain both the Byzantine and Ottoman city, and yet doesn't. The fact that there is a separate page for something does not mean that necessary info can be left out. Uness232 (talk) 00:31, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

The capital of Ottoman Empire was not moved to Ankara

Istanbul remained the capital city of the Ottomans. Ankara was the capital city of Ankara government. These two coexisted for a while until the Government of National Assembly in Ankara abolished the monarchy and caliphate in Istanbul, thus ending the Ottomans. 176.54.229.29 (talk) 10:33, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

Byzantium (Not Byzantion)

I vote to replace instances of "Byzantion" with Byzantium, to make it consistent with the Wikipedia page for Byzantium. 24.57.160.154 (talk) 14:39, 25 January 2023 (UTC)