Talk:Combined Joint Task Force – Operation Inherent Resolve

Brigade Group?

I don't think this is accurate for size. Wanted to see why it was added.Casprings (talk) 12:51, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Coalition

It would be useful to mention the countries and groups that joined this coalition. BatteryIncluded (talk) 16:57, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

They are listed in the infobox but are you suggesting some other kind of mentioning? - SantiLak (talk) 22:04, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

First (defining) sentence of the article; defining CJTF-OIR

On 1 Sept, 09:30, I removed the first sentence of the article which was fantasy (not sourced), and replaced it with the only clear definition of CJTF-OIR that I (or anyone up until now) can find in sources: a description of a task CJTF is performing since 5 Dec 2014. (Possibly CJTF has more tasks etc.; if anyone has such information, he can add it.) That day, EricSerge reverted my latest edit. Which means two things: (a) He removed my introduced ‘definition’. But why? In his edit summary, Eric apparently agrees with me, that that is a function CJTF is performing. Then why remove that from the article? (b), By reverting he also reintroduced the old first unsourced (fantasy) statement. Why? --Corriebertus (talk) 11:29, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

@Corriebertus: I will assume good faith in this exchange but ask that you read WP:BRD, you were bold, I reverted, then that takes us here to discussion. For whatever reason you decided to revert before discussion, so I restored the article to the version prior to your "bold" edit. I am not sure why you believe that the former lead is a fantasy. The task Force does incorporate a public affairs element, as most large military units do, but if you look here:[1] the statement is made "Combined Joint Task Force - Operation Inherent Resolve is the US-led Coalition's response to the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), often referred to as Daesh." If you believe that the only response that the coalition is making is on the public affairs front, then your rewrite is accurate. I however disagree that the CJTF is only a PA function. This reference that was already in the article: [2] describes the CJTF as the "...international coalition for Operation Inherent Resolve". I am not sure what you are driving at here, but your edits may border on the WP:POINTY side. Build a consensus then you can change the lead back to your version, at this point you do not have consensus. EricSerge (talk) 12:01, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Further, Public Affairs outfits do not deliver "precise and effective close air support on enemy positions near Taji, in support of the Iraqi Government's fight against ISIL."[3]. EricSerge (talk) 12:19, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

I agree with EricSerge on this one and cannot really understand your concern Corriebertus. The lead includes two references, both of which I believe specifically support the information in it (I added them in response to the concerns raised in the AFD which you started and which resulted in the article being kept). Stating that the lead is "unsourced" and "fantasy" really doesn't make a lot of sense in that context. Perhaps there are language issues here (English seems to be a second language for you) so if you can try to explain your concerns in more detail I'd be happy to discuss them more fully. At the moment though it really isn't clear to me why are making the edits that you are. Anotherclown (talk) 18:28, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

BTW this report in Janes specifically mentions CJTF-OIR's role as a headquarters to co-ordinate military operations against ISIL [4]. I've added it and a few other sources now. It is clearly not a public affairs unit (although it would of cse likely include a PA branch as a component, along with presumably a number of other standard headquarters cells such as intelligence, operations, plans, logistics, communications, health, legal etc.). Anotherclown (talk) 19:46, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Incorrectly including New Zealand

New Zealand is not a member of the Combined Joint Task Force, or at present in any way involved in fighting ISIS.Royalcourtier (talk) 21:07, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

New Zealand is listed is being involved with training or advise-and-assist missions with 17 other countries.[5][6]. EricSerge (talk) 05:26, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

EricSerge, what about Ukraine? Since when Ukraine is part of the task force???? I know that Ukraine does support it, but participation in it is a speculation? Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 16:03, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Aleksandr Grigoryev, see page 53: [7]. Ukraine is listed as part of the coalition. However, that doesn't say anything about material support etc. It would appear to be the source document for this Business Insider article [8]. EricSerge (talk) 18:50, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

and Ireland http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/us-military-removes-irish-flag-from-anti-isis-website-1.2805196 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.45.123.145 (talk) 17:49, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

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Hello, I am a public affairs officer for Combined Joint Task Force - Operation Inherent Resolve and I would like to update the wikipage. _______________________________

Combined Joint Task Force - Operation Inherent Resolve (CJTF?OIR, shortened here to ‘the Coalition’)) is the Joint Task Force established by the US-led international coalition against Daesh (commonly referred to in the Media as ISIL [Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant] or ISIS [Islamic State in Iraq and Syria]), set up by the US Central Command to coordinate military efforts against Daesh. It is composed of US military forces and personnel from a further 32 troop-contributing countries (33 in total).[1][15] The mission of CJTF?OIR is to "defeat ISIS in designated areas of Iraq and Syria and sets conditions for follow-on operations to increase regional stability”.[9] Its establishment by US Central Command was announced in December 2014, replacing the ad-hoc arrangements previously established to coordinate operations following the rapid gains made by Daesh in Iraq in June 2014.[17] Formed in October 2014,[3] the first "coalition integration conference" was held the first week of December 2014.[1] Current operations are named Operation Inherent Resolve by the United States Department of Defense. HISTORY: On March 23, 2019 in Baghouz, Syria, the SDF announced “the destruction of the so-called Islamic State Organization and the end of its ground control in its last pocket in Baguoz region.”https://sdf-press.com/en/2019/03/statement-to-public-opinion-14/] Since the Coalition went on the offensive against Daesh, they have liberated nearly 110,000 square kilometers resulting in 7.7 million people no longer living under Daesh oppression. Lieutenant General Paul LaCamera in a statement said, “…make no mistake, Daesh is preserving their force. They have made calculated decisions to preserve what is left of their dwindling personnel and capabilities by taking their chances in camps for internally displaced persons and going to underground in remote areas. They are waiting for the right time to re-emerge.” [10] The Syrian Democratic Forces is now focused on conducting back-clearance operations in an effort to “deny Daesh a physical space and influence in the area, and work to deny them the resources they need to return.” https://twitter.com/OIRSpox/status/1109868768279314434  In Iraq, the Coalition remains committed to working by, with and through the Iraqi Security Forces to build their capabilities and capacities to ensure the enduring defeat of Daesh. “Operations against Daesh are now in areas the group had previously regarded as its safe havens, in Nineveh, Salah ad Din and Anbar.” [11] On March 19, 2019 Mustafa Bali, the SDF spokesperson announced that the SDF is in control of Baghouz.  He added that while it is a significant step in the fight against Daesh it is not a victory announcement. [12] On February 21, 2019 the White House announced that “a small peace keeping group of about 200 will remain in Syria for (a) period of time.” [13] Later it was clarified by officials that approximately 400 US troops will stay in Syria, 200 in Northeast Syria, and 200 in al-Tanf. [14] By the end of 2018 more than 99 percent of Daesh territory had been liberated, allowing more than four-million internally displaced persons to return to their area of origin free from Daesh rule. The Global Coalition to ensure the enduring defeat of DAESH also grew in 2018 from 70 nations and four partner organizations to 74 nations and five partner organizations. The Coalition welcomed the Philippines in February 2018, Republic of Guinea and the Community of Sahel-Sahran States in June 2018, Kenya in August 2018, and Fiji in September 2018.http://www.inherentresolve.mil/News/News-Releases/Article/1725931/cjtf-oir-reflects-on-significant-military-gains-fighting-isis-in-2018/ On December 19, 2018, the NY Times announced that President Trump would order the withdrawal of US from Syria, declaring “we have won against ISIS.” A timetable for the withdrawal was not established, but was characterized by the Office of the Secretary of Defense as “deliberate.” [Subsequent announcements by senior officials within the US government affirmed that the mission to defeat Daesh would continue even as US forces withdrew [15]. On December 25, 2018, it was announced that Brett McGurk, the US envoy to the coalition against Daesh, had resigned from his post.[28] During the Obama administration, he held ad hoc talks with Iranian government officials regarding the Iran nuclear deal and the release of US citizens detained by the country. [29] In September 2018, the headquarters element of CJTF-OIR transferred from III Corps, from Fort Hood, led by Lieutenant General Paul F. Funk II and Command Sergeant Major Michael A. Crosby to the XVIII Airborne Corps led by Lieutenant General Paul J. LaCamera and Command Sergeant Major Charles W. Albertson. There are two deputies, Deputy Commander-Strategy and Information (S&I) U.K. Major General Chistopher J. Ghika  and Deputy Commander-Operations and Intelligence (O&I) U.S. Major General Chad P. Franks. In May 2018, the coalition began Operation Roundup aimed at eliminating Daesh from northeast Syria. Phase 1 of Roundup ended on 15 May.  Phase 2 began in June 2018, with the aim of clearing Dashisha. The coalition announced at the time strikes supporting Round up in May exceeded April’s strike total by 123 percent, and March’s strike total by 304 percent. Phase 2 ended on July 20 when the SDF cleared Daesh from Dashisha. Phase 3 of Operation Roundup was announced in September 2018 with the goal to clear DAESH from northeastern Syria, along the Middle Euphrates River Valley toward the Syria-Iraq border at Baghouz. In April 2018 the Coalition organizational structure changed with the deactivation of the Combined Joint Forces Land Component Command. CJFLCC was responsible for Coalition land force operations in support of the Iraqi Security Forces during the campaign to defeat Daesh in Iraq. The CJFLCC’s train, assist and equip mission in support of the ISF were consolidated under a single headquarters.  In February 2018, following the liberation of Mosul, the Coalition announced it will shift its focus in Iraq from enabling combat operations to sustaining military gains against Daesh and prevent the conditions under which Daesh can re-emerge.  [16] On 9 Dec. 2017, the Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Aadi announced, “we have defeated Daesh through our unity and sacrifice for the nation.” [17] During 2017, the coalition liberated over 61,500km², or over 98 percent of the territory controlled by DAESH, liberating more than 4.5 million people from DAESH oppression in 2017. The Coalition during this time built partnership capacity by training Iraqi Security Forces and Syrian Democratic Forces personnel who will provide security to their people. By the end of 2017, the Coalition had delivered training to over 126,500 Iraqis and more than 12,500 Syrians. The Coalition during 2017 was led by U.S. Army Lieutenant General Paul E. Funk II. CJTF-OIR’s forward headquarters is at Union III in Baghdad and their rear headquarters is at Camp Arifjan in Kuwait. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryandonald15 (talk • contribs) 12:26, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Two pages about the same thing?

What is the difference between this article and Operation Inherent Resolve? Are those in fact two articles about the same thing? Operation Inherent Resolve seems to give more information. I wanted to update the article with the current leadership (see https://www.inherentresolve.mil/About-Us/Biographies/ ) but I'm confused which page to edit. 2001:983:F8EA:1:34C6:B0F:5AC6:1434 (talk) 14:24, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

Unexplained edits

Lots of unexplained recent edits which seem to contradict body. ShkoDev can you explain here? BobFromBrockley (talk) 12:25, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Name change

This article was formerly Operation Inherent Resolve but renamed Combined Joint Task Force by ShkoDev with no edit summary explaining. I think ShkoDev might be a new editor so I want to assume good faith, but I think this is a bad move. We have articles for Combined Joint Task Force – Horn of Africa, Combined Joint Task Force 82, Combined Joint Task Force 180 and any other number of CJTFs,[18] so it is weird for this one to have that as its name rather than its more specific OIR suffix. I don't know how article name changes work and hope someone can return it. BobFromBrockley (talk) 16:24, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

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Senior Enlisted Leader

Why?

Why also spokesperson? surely the info box should only be about very senior officers? Slatersteven (talk) 13:52, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

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