Talk:Coffer

Suggested merge

I have suggested that the architectural section of this article and the article Caisson (Asian architecture) be merged. The articles seem to be discussing the same architectural feature and the architectural portion of this article needs more material. It might also be feasible to merge both articles with cupola. As it is the word "Caisson" does not seem to be used frequently in Western architecture to describe this feature. In Asian architecture, the description seems to be the same as that of coffer. --Mattisse 13:50, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

I am withdrawing this suggestion, as no one seems interested. Mattisse 00:16, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

The discussion about coffers is incomplete is also a reference to a "box of valuables" merriam Webster's And in my personal recollection it refers to your personal bank account or savings. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.233.210.153 (talk) 22:59, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Caisson has a specific meaning in English to describe engineering solutions for bridge piers, etc. Its use to describe the coffering of a coffered ceiling is misleading because it's less than correct. Separate articles are needed.--Wetman (talk) 01:22, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

I agree with this statement. —Mattisse (Talk) 02:16, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

coffer (or coffering) in architecture, is a sunken panel..

But what does that mean? "sunken panel"?RayJohnstone (talk) 04:37, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

What is a "pole", where is the "experimentation"?

"Experimentation with the possible shapes of the pole is coffering,..." What is a "pole"? I checked the pages on tessellation, dome, and related terms, but did not find the word. I assume it refers to the vertical line through the top of the dome, but any real definition would be helpful. Also, if the "experimentation" part is important, can someone include some pictures? Thanks! Obl obl (talk) 13:04, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

I think that pole refers to a wooden structural element, similar to a joist. "Ancient" peoples did not have access to finish lumber, they just had trees - cut it down, strip the branches and bark, and you have a pole... I HAVE TO SAY - I tried to find a "definition" of pole to clarify my statement, and most just say it is a "cylindrical object whose length is much greater than its diameter", very frustrating, but understandable. In the US, "pole" is usually related to "flagpole", a vertical support for another object, but understood to have significant length, like lengths of plumbing pipe. As I understand it, "pole" when referring to wood means, essentially, a long, rounded piece of wood/timber, of indeterminate dimensions, but fitting the above mentioned definition of pole. Even though the article, I'm sure, has changed since the Obl obl posted, these points are still and will be of interest.

As far as "experimentation", I figured it meant something like Mir Castle Complex, where the coffers have octagonal instead of square cross-sections. There are other ways to form a coffer, the article currently claims that the Pantheon's coffers were made with molds. Just trying to add some clarity here. Angryredplanet (talk) 09:15, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

example

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kirchheim_in_Schwaben_Fuggerschloss_Zedernsaal_Kassettendecke_2013-08-03_(1).jpg