Talk:Coca (pastry)

Murcia

Mountolive, I was surprised you included Murcia as a place where cocas are made. Surprised and happy, as I think the more places it's made, the better. But I never read this fact and I wondered if you coud tell me where exactly it is made, and perhaps a reference? --Espencat (talk) 18:51, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi Espencat...I was sure that I have seen 'cocas' in Murcia (capital city). You know that this region is quite tied with the (southern part) of the Alicante province. But now you make me doubt...I am not so sure if those savory pastries were called coca or not. Apparently google is not giving a concluding reference, that is why, if you may, I'll place a {cn} tag, and, when I am around there (possibly during the second half of December) I'll make my own tasty "field research" and at least reasure myself. Mountolive _{le déluge} 20:50, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm fine with that. I too have seen something similar but I think it had a different name. --Espencat (talk) 18:50, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry Mountolive but I'm removing Murcia since you've said nothing further in it's defense. If you can support it with a ref, I'm happy to put it back again. --Espencat (talk) 19:50, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

mmmmhh, I guess you could take my word anyway, but it is true that I promised something to back this and I havent brought it. MOUNTOLIVE _{fedeli alla linea} 19:55, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Cocas or coques?

I just wonder, if we say that in Catalan "coca" comes from bla bla bla, why using "cocas" for the plural? shouldn't it be "coques"? if it can confuse the reader, an explanation in the etimology section could be included...--Xtv - (my talk) - (que dius que què?) 10:04, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure. Following standard English spelling rules, Coca--->cocas. I do believe I have seen it spelt like this, but as it's not in the dictionary...there's no hard and fast rule. I'm not oposed to using Coques and certainly you're right about explaining this.--Espencat (talk) 16:21, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

A few searches in google, wictionary and the dictionary come up short. I can only find coca in Spanish and catalan. In english it seems not to appear in singular or either form of the plural: [1] in the dictionary I found articles on cocas in English using "cocas" and none using "coques". Howere, the Generalitat de Catalunya uses "coques" once and only once here: [2]. I think having explained the plural form in etymology, we are free to use the most natural adaption, which in my humble opinion as an English-speaker would be "cocas".--Espencat (talk) 16:37, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Pretty much agree with Espencat. If we assume that the word 'coca' has been received into English, then we should use here the standard English plural form -s, hence, cocas. Mountolive _{le déluge} 02:26, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes, we should use the standard English plural form -s as we do with Lied/Lieder... but anyway, with the etymology explanation it's ok for me. --Xtv - (my talk) - (que dius que què?) 23:59, 1 December 2008 (UTC)