Talk:Cobra (manga)/GA1

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Reviewer: Tezero (talk · contribs) 07:44, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Man, has this ever been up for a while. I'm sorry about that.

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• Beef up the image's FUR if you're planning for FAC.
• Nice job with archiving. I need to get on that for more of my articles.
• There are some sources I haven't heard of, like Movie Square, Film Review, Right Stuf, ComicBookMovie, Buichi, and Hand Held Museum. Admittedly I don't have a good handle on WP:ANIME reliability, but are you sure these are all reliable?
• The intro is a bit excessive in detail regarding the manga's and anime's licensing and releases. Does the reader really need to know right away that the anime was licensed by Nozomi for North America in 2014, for example? I'd think most of this could be cut down (maybe reduced to one or two sentences about the anime and manga having been licensed for US release by various distributors) without harm. I haven't read the body text yet, but unless it's a show like Pokémon, Yu-Gi-Oh!, Sonic X, or Kirby: Right Back at Ya!, where the licensing by 4Kids was infamous and had a lot written about it, I don't see the relevance.

Tezero (talk) 07:44, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Okay, here are some more in-depth comments about Plot:

• What are the Psychogun and the Pirate Guild?
• How different is Cobra from Johnson: is he just Johnson with a costume, or a completely different person with Johnson's mind?
• "He asks Johnson about "Cobra" and threatens to kill Johnson if he does not answer" - Does Vaiken realize Johnson is Cobra?
• "Johnson asks to be a king of a harem, to be surrounded by beautiful women" - Er... I'm not up on my ecchi, but aren't these the same thing?
• "Johnson starts to remember his previous existence as Cobra" - What triggers this memory?

Tezero (talk) 22:56, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

About the sources: Movie Square is the anime studio official site (TMS Entertainment [look at the bottom of the site]), and Buichi.com is the author (Buichi Terasawa) site. Right Stuf is the owner of Nozomi Entertainment, the series North American licensor. I don't have strong arguments for the others, but let's try. ComicBookMovie is extensively used in Wikipedia. Apparently Film Review is a British professional film review magazine published in print (I'm in doubt it's the same as Film Review, though [the logo on a 2007 issue is a kinda of similar to the site logo]). Hand Held Museum is probably the most questionable, but it only asserts (through images) the existence of that games [hm... and the release dates]. And, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=%22handheldmuseum.com%22&title=Special%3ASearch&go=Go it's kinda of used here).

I'll deal with the rest as soon as I can. Thanks for the review, Tezero! Gabriel Yuji (talk) 18:43, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

About your in-depth comments:

• Clarified (I hope so)
• Well, "Johnson" is Cobra with his face surgically altered and his memories erased
• No. At least, if Vaiken realized he was Cobra he probably would attack him; instead he just threatened a "stranger"
• Good point
• Well... an cybernetic arm with a laser broke out in the place of his regular arm, and he fought side by side with his former partner

Good enough for me. Honestly, I only have one more question after a cursory read of the rest of the page and a couple small edits, and I'm not gonna hold up GAN for it:

• "Although the correct transliteration of "ボーイ" is "Boy"" - Why is that the "correct" transliteration? Do you just mean that's the way it's officially transcribed in English-language media? Is there any info on why the name change occurred?

In the meantime, I'll just pass this. Tezero (talk) 20:23, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Good point. It's the correct transliteration according to Hepburn romanization, and is also the official name in English-language media. However, Terasawa uses his poetic license to transliterate "ボーイ" to "Bowie" even when David Bowie is known as "デヴィッド・ボウイ" in Japanese. I did an edit; you can help me if you want to or if it needed. Gabriel Yuji (talk) 20:42, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

That's fine. Thanks for clearing that up. :) Tezero (talk) 20:47, 10 October 2014 (UTC)