Talk:Cleveland East Ohio Gas explosion

Latest comment: 7 years ago by N2e in topic Lack of sources

Lack of sources edit

This page really needs to add some refrences - I suggest the Cleveland Press. A picture or two wouldnt go over badly either. Purple Potato (talk) 16:39, 27 August 2008 (UTC)Reply

Agree. There is really very little sourced content for anything in the article. And the article is devoid of stating the root cause of the disaster. (cryo-fatique of the steel structure when that phenomenon was still poorly understood; even though earlier problems with brittleness in steel were known in the 1910s from brittle steel failures in cold North Atlantic waters). N2e (talk) 03:12, 19 August 2016 (UTC)Reply
Further summary of the current poor state of the sources.
  • No inline citations are provided; so not possible to tell which source migth support which claim
  • The two encyclopedia sources are tertiary sources; not good sources for any Wikipedia article (reliable secondary sources are preferred, but especially poor for wartime disasters where US government was concerned with real/apparent threats of sabotage and had active disinformation agreements with US newspapers about what could and would not be reported.
  • The (very vague) newspaper reports mentioned in the "References" section are 1) not specific enough to verify and 2) are subject to the same issue of wartime limits on reporting as mentioned above.
I'll try to get back here again soon and summarize what later came out, after the war. (I wrote a safety note on this disaster in 1973 which did have access then to post-war sources and more US government transparency with WWII long in the past.) N2e (talk) 03:37, 19 August 2016 (UTC)Reply