Talk:Chris Lee (New York politician)

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Is there any information on what this middle initial stands for? Tyciol (talk) 12:55, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Anyone want to remove "racy" from the introductory paragraph?

I know that I could edit it, but I don't personally want to do that. The question is this: although being specific is a good thing, this may be pejorative. After all -- what makes pictures "racy"? Maybe the paragraph should simply state that the photos exist, and that they have something to do with his resignation. I'm fine with that. But maybe explaining later in the article about why those photos matter might be enough.

I'm just throwing this out there. I'll let others debate it if necessary, and make the appropriate editing call. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.64.200.45 (talk) 00:32, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Now using the language cribbed from a reliable source. Thanks. Active Banana (^bananaphone 00:38, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Reiterated this description for improved neutrality and tastefulness.   — C M B J   06:06, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

• ...a scandal over relational transgressions.

Was it really a "scandal"? There was disclosure of an attempted adultery episode, but he resigned before it developed into a scandal. None of the cited sources call it a scandal.   Will Beback  talk 

A scandal is defined by Wiktionary as being "an incident or event that disgraces or damages the reputation of the persons or organization involved," so I would reason that it is a technically accurate descriptor. However, if you believe that there is a better substitute, then by all means feel free to use it.   — C M B J   13:22, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

I don't see any scandal here, and I don't see the justification for using the term 'relational transgressions' either. I think it's easiest to just say 'he resigned', and explain why further down the article; it's up to the reader whether they consider that a 'scandal' or not. Robofish (talk) 13:47, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Another common definition reported by Wiktionary, and the one I was thinking of, is: Wide-spread moral outrage, indignation, as over an offence to decency. But I agree with Robofish, that it's sufficient to say in the intro that he resigned and leave the details for the body.   Will Beback  talk  07:08, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Clarence, New York

He doesn't live in Clarence, NY anymore; he lives in Amherst, NY. 173.64.8.85 (talk) 03:28, 10 February 2011 (UTC)S

We'll change it if you can provide a source. --Muboshgu (talk) 03:51, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

http://findarticles.com/p/news-articles/buffalo-news/mi_8030/is_20100705/erie-county-real-estate-transactions/ai_n54334374/ 67.99.175.226 (talk) 17:56, 10 February 2011 (UTC)S http://www.r-house.com/app.aspx?st=7210&e=detail&propertyid=1732431 67.99.175.226 (talk) 17:57, 10 February 2011 (UTC)S

• This source lists among Amherst sales, "48 Bradenham Place, Julia D. Turner; James A. Turner to Michele R. Lee; Christopher J. Lee, $630,000." A nice enough mcmansion, but not sure this is sufficient, especially considering he may soon have another change of residence.--Milowent • ^talkblp-r 20:27, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
  • Seems to me that's a primary source. Secondary would be preferred. --Muboshgu (talk) 01:23, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
  • Seems to me that this is an over-interpretation of Wikipedia's preference for secondary sources. A primary source of a piece of factual information such as a real estate transaction, which is public information, is reliable.Cross Reference (talk) 04:29, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

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I have protected this article to prevent the ongoing edit war. Please discuss your issues here on the talk page and come to a consensus moving forward. Note that this is a WP:BLP so we tend to err on the side of caution and poorly sourced information can and should be removed. Please use the reliable sources noticeboard if there are questions around sources noting Gawker's entry states it is generally unreliable, particularly for BLPs. When consensus is achieved the article can be unprotected. Woody (talk) 20:30, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

IP removing referenced material

An IP has been removing referenced material regarding the article's subject. I will leave this as a placeholder for further discussion. Ifnord (talk) 20:32, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

@Ifnord: See above. The onus is on the editor arguing for inclusion which in this case is you. What justifies their inclusion? Do you a have a reliable source noting that Gawker's entry on RSN states it is generally unreliable, particularly for BLPs. Woody (talk) 20:41, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

@Woody: While Gawker may have fell from grace, the information is accurate and widely available from reliable sources such as from ABC News [1], the Washington Post [2], and the New York Times [3]. Ifnord (talk) 20:59, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

I would suggest using those sources rather than tabloids then. It puts the information in a different light if it is from reliable, third party sources. I hope the IP will be along when they realise the article is protected from editing and discusses their issues. If no discussion is forthcoming I will reduce it to semi. Woody (talk) 22:59, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 25 June 2020

Hi,

Earlier today, I requested that certain parts of the article about Chris Lee, a New York politician, be removed. I removed two or three sentences that insinuated he resigned because he sent a "shirtless photo" to a "woman on Craigslist." The source for this information was cited as a Gawker article; Gawker.com is no longer operational due to repeated allegations of defamation and false gossip, although its subsidiaries are still active. The information regarding a "shirtless photo" is not relevant to this individual's political career and can be considered defamation, particularly because it comes from an unreliable source.

I tried to edit this content multiple times, and when an administrator undid my work, I repeated my action and explained myself in the explanation section. Please republish my content, as it is more neutral and provides a more well-rounded overview of this individual that is better suited for Wikipedia. Thank you. 2601:282:4302:94A0:C1CA:5372:760C:9A9C (talk) 02:57, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit protected}} template. Jack Frost (talk) 11:56, 25 June 2020 (UTC)