Talk:Chennai Express/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: TonyTheTiger (talk · contribs) 06:56, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

• I will perform this review.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:56, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
• The toolbox to the right notes one disambiguation link remains.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 01:40, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

There is no mention of Tabloid on the article. Checked twice. Nothing found on search of "Tabloid" in Chrome, and when I clicked "fix link" on the disambig tool it says there is no disambig links. Data is not updated I guess. Clearing the cache may also prove to be helpful? Ethically ^(Yours) 06:31, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Have you checked all the templates?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:53, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Performed the check. Nothing. Ethically ^(Yours) 15:13, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Ask for help at the help desk.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:36, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

The tool shows "The toolserver database revision is out dated." In the footer, a small note is placed saying it was last updated during September 2013.

I don't think that is the explanation. Please ask at the help desk.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:47, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

What is going on with this issue?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:41, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

I used the disambig tool as well, and it didn't yield anything for the article. I also checked Tabloid's What Links Here since it was mentioned on this page as the troublesome link, and I couldn't find anything related to this article or templates within it. - Purplewowies (talk) 16:45, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

John of Reading also helped out with this link that agrees with the fact that there is absolutely no disambiguation links, Tony. It's just that the Toolserver DB is somehow not updated. That's it. Ethically ^(Yours) 16:56, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

• The toolbox to the right shows a couple of external link issues.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 01:40, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Checked both the links (1 and 2, working fine whereas the tool mentions it as "soft 404". Error on part of the tool. Ethically ^(Yours) 06:31, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

WP:LEAD

• Under the banner sounds slangy and I am not sure what it means.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 01:46, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done Done. Ethically ^(Yours) 06:54, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

• Why mention one first director-lead actor combination and not the other.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 01:46, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done Removed the director-actor part as I couldn't find any source for Deepika-Rohit Shetty films. Ethically ^(Yours) 06:54, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

• Now that the article is pretty much done, we need to make sure that the WP:LEAD summarizes the main body. Try to include a summary of each section in the LEAD. E.g., the Music section is not mentioned in the LEAD.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:56, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done Now that everything's done, I hope to see it as a GA soon. I'm starving for that :) And BTW, a very happy new year, Tony! Ethically ^(Yours) 05:20, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Plot

• Doesn't forty-year old have two hyphens?---TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:56, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done Ethically ^(Yours) 06:14, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

• Link Sikh--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:56, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done Ethically ^(Yours) 06:14, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Recheck the article. You still have not summarized the Critical reception section.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:28, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

The above comment should be moved to the lead section. 2nd para first line has already summarized it. Ethically ^(Yours) 15:22, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Production

• This article violates WP:LASTNAME in several places, especially in this section.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:14, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done Fixed. Ethically ^(Yours) 16:50, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

• What do you mean by "narrated"?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:14, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Reading the film script to some actor, so that he/she can reflect his or her views on the film and whether he/she wants to act in the film. It is pretty clear and is easy to understand. I don't think that it requires any change whatsoever. Ethically ^(Yours)`

I have never heard of this term. Is it a Bollywood term? In the U.S., my perception is that actors receive scripts (mail, email or download) and read them like one would read a play. This sounds like an actor invites a person into their home and that person reads the scrip to them. It sounds odd. It sounds like to receive the script one must host a human being who reads it to you.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:17, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Oh yes Tony :) It is a Bollywood term, more commonly used in India and South Asian countries than in the US. Most films get kicked off in this manner. The director narrates the script in brief, the actor decides whether to accept or reject. That's the old business here, old man! Cheers. Ethically ^(Yours) 16:27, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

• Please expand or merge the single-sentence paragraph.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:14, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done Ethically ^(Yours) 12:05, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

• What do you mean by "black casuals", "double up", and "opted"?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:14, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done Ethically ^(Yours) 16:50, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

• "was off to Jakarta" sounds slangy.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:14, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done Ethically ^(Yours) 16:50, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Release

• Merge or expand the opening one-line paragraph.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:38, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done Ethically ^(Yours) 06:26, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

• This section sounds like it was written by a non-American English speaker or non-English speaker.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:53, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

I have fixed minor grammatical mistakes. If anything was left that failed to catch my attention, I'd change it. And, since this article is related to India, where British English is used, and not American, it'd be in compliance with policies to use "non-American" English. Ethically ^(Yours) 12:14, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

• "Shah Rukh Khan-starrer" seems awkward in American English. X, which starred Y, and Z, which starred Q would be more encyclopedic, IMO.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:53, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done Fixed. Ethically ^(Yours) 07:43, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

• Eliminate future tense.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:53, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done Ethically ^(Yours) 12:14, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

• The terms Single screens, first look and nett are unfamiliar?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:53, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done Ethically ^(Yours) 12:14, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

• Outfits... were.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:53, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done Ethically ^(Yours) 12:14, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

• The term tariff is unusual in American English. We would use ticket price, fee, or charge.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:59, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Since it is primarily related to India, where tariff is a dictionary word, I don't think it requires any change.

Controversies

• Now starrer with no hyphen is also awkward as above.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:53, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done Ethically ^(Yours) 12:14, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

• "in the interest of" change to "due to"--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:53, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done Ethically ^(Yours) 14:17, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

• This section reads awkwardly.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:53, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done Ethically ^(Yours) 14:17, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Music

• "Amitabh Bhattacharya and Yo Yo Honey Singh stamped their lyrics in the album." does not have meaning in American English or at least means something very different than you are trying to say.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:35, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done Ethically ^(Yours) 14:45, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

• What do the following mean:

1. "attributed as 'insane'"--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:35, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
2. "hence the former were reported to rework entirely"--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:35, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
3. "playback post fifteen years" mean?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:35, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done Ethically ^(Yours) 14:45, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

• Merge or expand single sentence paragraph.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:35, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done

Critical response

• The quote "It is likely to appeal music lovers" either needs another to following appeal (if it was omitted accidentally) or a [sic] to denote the actual quote is ungrammatical.--TonyTheTiger (T /

C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:45, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done Ethically ^(Yours) 14:45, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

See sic for proper usage. I believe it is suppose to be included within the quotes directly following the erroneous element.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:54, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

 Fixed Thanks. Done correctly. The "to" was indeed omitted, verified with reference source. Ethically ^(Yours) 08:18, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

I don't understand the correction here.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:10, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

The "to" was omitted from the quote at the time you reviewed it. Afterwards the to has been added and there is no requirement for sic. Ethically ^(Yours) 16:33, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

O.K. but you have to correct the quote in the article since it has been corrected in the source.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:44, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

As far as I can see, it is already present. Ethically ^(Yours) 17:04, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

I am still seeing "It is likely to appeal music lovers of all age-groups".--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:18, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done Sorry, mistake on my part. Put the "to" now. Ethically ^(Yours) 06:38, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

• I am fairly certain that there is some POV editing going on here. With 3s and 3.5s out of 5 not all the comments should be positive. There should be some problems with the music that the professionals who have given somewhat mediocre reviews have noted. Either expand the given reviews or add some more to give a more robust set of critiques. I.e., we expect a summary of both the positive and negative elements.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:45, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Although it seems like it is biased, I couldn't find too many negative reviews available. Still, changed the Joginder Singh (Rediff) review to a point where is sort-of-criticised. Ethically ^(Yours) 14:45, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

I have problems with a lack of both sides of the issue here. Not sure what to do other than encourage you to find some drawbacks to the music.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:56, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Critical reception

• What does USP mean?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:19, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done, a quick lookup here shows Unique Selling Point. Well, I myself didn't know about it. Ethically ^(Yours) 14:45, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

• What is a "a 40-year Rahul"?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:19, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done Attached a [sic] at the end. It is a quote. Ethically ^(Yours) 07:13, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

As I understand it [sic] means that this is an exact quote including a typographical or grammatical error. How does [sic] help here.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:42, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

 Fixed Ethically ^(Yours) 07:13, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

this change is still not correct. See sic and look at how it is used in this quote "The House of Representatives shall chuse [sic] their Speaker"--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:08, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done Maybe you were referring to the Vishal Shekher one. Done. Ethically ^(Yours) 08:24, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

It seems you are using The Chicago Manual of Style alternative mentioned at the bottom. O.K.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:07, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Overseas

• I am surprise how negative the overseas press was. Is this representative?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:19, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

 Question: I couldn't get you. What do I have to do? Ethically ^(Yours) 14:45, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

India

• nett and starrer still trouble me.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:50, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done Ethically ^(Yours) 15:13, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

• Six week run seems short.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:50, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

What am I supposed to do? Six weeks is a long time. Ethically ^(Yours) 15:13, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

• "Also at overseas, the film broke records" s/b something like "Also, the film broke overseas records" or "Also, the film broke records overseas".--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:56, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done Ethically ^(Yours) 15:13, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Images

• File:SRK at CE promotion.jpg and File:Deepika choli 1.jpg both need {{personality rights}}.--!!!!

 Done Ethically ^(Yours) 15:48, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

• File:SRK at CE promotion.jpg has some sort of confirmation that is needed.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:08, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Requested an administrator at Commons to do the job. Will be done soon. Ethically ^(Yours) 07:11, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done It has been reviewed; result positive. Ethically ^(Yours) 06:52, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

• File:Chennai Express soundtrack.jpg and File:Chennai Express.jpg have adequate FURs although some specialists may not agree.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:08, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done I don't notice any problem in that. Ethically ^(Yours) 07:11, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

• Mountains are PD.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:08, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

 Question: Does PD here mean Public Domain? I'm confused. The image was taken by someone and licensed with a CC copyright. Could you possibly make it more clear, so that I can work on it? Ethically ^(Yours) 07:11, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes. PD is good. Nothing for you to do.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:50, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

• File:Chennai Express screenshot.jpg needs expanded FUR.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:08, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done Ethically ^(Yours) 07:11, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

• WP:CAPTIONs need to be revised to clarify complete sentences (as indicated by a concluding period) vs. phrases that are not complete sentences (and do not end with periods).--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:11, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done Ethically ^(Yours) 07:13, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

File:Munnar hillstation kerala.jpg still wrong.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:13, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done FYI. Ethically ^(Yours) 15:48, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

• I am going to put this article On hold. I welcome additional 3rd party commentary. I will be monitoring both responses to my concern and outside commentary.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:14, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

• The article has suddenly become unstable. I will monitor it for a while. If it does not stabilize, I can not pass the article.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:28, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

• Now in addition to seeing many reversions, I am seeing reversions of reversions (edit warring) and reversions of you the primary author. I am FAILing this article for instability.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:56, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Atleast you could have given me the time to check back your comments. It feels bad after such a lot of hard work, you see. Anyways, I have contacted Jionpedia about the issue and requested PC protection. When can I renominate it again? Ethically ^(Yours) 15:22, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Sorry. I just woke up and noticed the warring. Feel free to renominate once the article is stable.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:33, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Other comments

Can I add some comments about the article, if you so please? There are some things that I would like to add. Epicgenius (talk) 21:58, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

First of all, thank you for the Merry Christmas message! Loved it. Coming back to topic, I'm not sure if more than one reviewer is allowed to- maybe Tony knows about this- to review one article. Still, your opinions and suggestions will be greatly valued; so feel free to drop by comments. Regards, Ethically ^(Yours) 03:51, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Okay, because I was just concerned that some of the cast listing was unreferenced. Epicgenius (talk) 18:04, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done Added references to the cast list. Ethically ^(Yours) 08:23, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Filming

Citation needed: "The filming began at Mehboob Studio in Mumbai on 5 October 2012." Also Reference #32 doesn't states that "cast and crew went to Goa in November for filming".--Joseph 12:36, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done Ethically ^(Yours) 13:25, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

• I think article can be passed as a GA. It's clear and User:Ethically Yours has fixed the problems!--Joseph 13:32, 8 January 2014 (UTC)