Talk:Charter of the Forest

Charter rights

Heatherdoodle - Magna Carta did not deal solely with rights of barons, as your change "which dealt with the rights of barons" appears to say. Several provisions of Magna Carta refer to a right of any "free man". Others refer to "no-one" or "anyone", and one to any "widow", though these may be understood to refer only to the free. One provision refers to the City of London. Accordingly, the "rights of barons" addition might be deleted or altered to "rights against the king". But you have a raft of changes that clearly need to be handled as a package. Please pursue this good work. --Wikiain (talk) 23:16, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

'estover' should be 'estovers' — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alfredsimpson (talk • contribs) 13:19, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

more literature

I found a book entitled 'The Royal Forests of England' (1905) which might be of interest. https://ia801408.us.archive.org/11/items/royalforestsofen00coxjuoft/royalforestsofen00coxjuoft.pdf

The phrase 'charter of the forest' appears several times in the book. Index: Charter of the Forest, the, 3, 6, 8, 9, 12, 13, 22, 40,

For example on page 3 ("It has been pointed out by Mr. Turner that the history of English forests divides itself into three periods, namely, from the earliest times up to 1217, when the Charter of the Forest of Henry III. was granted ; from that date up to 1301, when large tracts were disafforested by Edward I. ; and thirdly, from 1301 up to the present day")

On page 6: "Soon after this, in 1217, the child-king Henry was made to issue the Charter of the Forest, in consideration of a grant of one-fifteenth of all movables of the whole kingdom. By this instrument it was provided that all forests, which Henry II. had afforested, should be viewed by good and lawful men ; and that all that had been made forest, other than his own royal demesne, was forthwith to be disafforested. In accordance with this charter special perambulations were ordered to be made before March, 1224-5, by twelve knights elected for the purpose."

On page 8: Edward I. in some cases broke the Forest Charter under legal quibbles ; but he did not, in general, desire that the boundaries of the forest as settled by his father, should be disturbed. Towards the end of his reign, however, strong political pressure induced him to consent to further disafforesting. The Forest Charter was confirmed in 1297, but further perambulations were undertaken between that date and 1301, by which large reductions were made in the forest area."

p.47: "THE sixth article of the Charter of the Forest (1217) dealt with the old custom of the lawing of dogs. The inquisition or view of the lawing of dogs in the forest was for the future to be made every third year, and he whose dog was then found to be unlawed was to be fined three shillings."

p.60: "The fourteenth section of the Charter of the Forest, 1217, provided that it was only a forester-of-fee who had a right of cheminage, namely, for carriage by cart for the half-year, 2d., and the same for the other half-year ; for a horse that bare loads, \d. the half-year. But this fee was only to be taken of those who came as merchants from outside foresters' bailiwick; cheminage was not to be taken for any other carriage by cart. Those who bore on their back brushwood, bark, or charcoal, though it was their living, were to pay no cheminage to the king's foresters unless they took it in the royal demesne woods." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.84.88.181 (talk) 03:48, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

"see also"

The "see also" links to Elinor Ostrom and the Ship Money Act 1640 need to be explained. Deipnosophista (talk) 18:38, 14 August 2017 (UTC)