Talk:Celebrity Big Brother (British TV series) series 12

Are they nominating three or one for eviction? (Cult)

I'm confused. I've put three but is it one? I'd be grateful if anyone could confirm. WilmaT-H09 (talk) 23:10, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

They haven't really explained it fully, but three seems logical for now :) thanks for putting it up. We can always change it if need be, like I've put the yellow in the noms table for the time being, because I'm assuming they're immune. 81.158.219.86 (talk) 23:15, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

It's 1 a day from tomorrow, meaning after Friday, Saturday then Sunday we'll know which 3 are nominated. Similar to something Terry had to to in CBB6 when he chose Ulrika, Ben and Lucy. ThisIsDanny (talk) 23:39, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Is it one? I've read in articles online it is so I've changed it. http://bigbrother247.co.uk/day-1-louie-lauren-and-sophie-are-the-cult-of-celebrity/ ??? WilmaT-H09 (talk) 23:49, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

According to this video, it seems it maybe one? they already put down 3 as a shortlist in which they'll pick one that's up for eviction. Mr tim111 (talk) 16:01, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes it is one. Thank you for this confirmation. None of the article needs to be altered. WilmaT-H09 (talk) 16:15, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

And like I said, they will continue over 3 days to choose housemates. ThisIsDanny (talk) 21:27, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Yep. You were right. I'm changing the article to reflect this information. :) WilmaT-H09 (talk) 21:30, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

I have done the nominations table but left the day blank. Add the other two nominated housemates in Lauren, Louie and Sophie's rows --MSalmon (talk) 21:47, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

How would this work for the nominations received column? Are they counted as 1 or 3, or any? ThisIsDanny (talk) 21:54, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

They would receive one each as it was a group decision --MSalmon (talk) 21:55, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Nominations table - suggestion

My suggestion for the noms table is to keep the turquoise colour for Lauren, Louie and Sophie but instead of putting all 3 nominees' names in each of their columns, we could write Cult of Celebrity in italics, and simply put the three nominees as 'Nominated' for the first round of nominations (in blue such as Gina, Sallie and Dexter in Week 1 of BB14).

I am suggesting this for formatting reasons so that the table looks neater, otherwise Lauren, Louie and Sophie's rows are going to look larger than all the other housemates' rows. 81.158.219.86 (talk) 13:10, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

I agree with you, besides it looks strange having Ron's name listed 3 times but him only having 1 nomination. Waterlooroadfan107 (talk) 14:58, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

I agree. This should be changed to this suggestion above. It works far better in my honest opinion. Go for it. WilmaT-H09 (talk) 18:08, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks :) 81.158.219.86 (talk) 22:41, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

I don't entirely get this idea? They made nominations and surely those nominations should be included in the Nominations table like we have done in past seasons. Why have we suddenly changed our minds? I really much prefer this layout since it's more easy to understand:

Nominations table
	Day 4				Final Day 23	Nominations received
Abz	Not eligible					0
Bruce	Not eligible					0
Carol	Not eligible					0
Charlotte	Not eligible					0
Courtney	Not eligible					0
Danielle	Not eligible					1
Dustin	Not eligible					0
Lauren	Ron, Danielle, Vicky					0
Louie	Ron, Danielle, Vicky					0
Mario	Not eligible					0
Ron	Not eligible					1
Sophie	Ron, Danielle, Vicky					0
Vicky	Not eligible					1
Nomination note	1
Against public vote	Danielle, Ron, Vicky
Evicted

I just don't understand why we have to make everything complicated and just keep it the same as we have done in past seasons. They were nominations, so why are we not including them in a nominations table? --RachelRice (talk) 15:13, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

I think it is because in BB14 Michael was not a HM so it was done that way. But as that is not the case this series we should list them even if they are the same nominations and the rows are bigger. They did it in the fourth series on Day 15 when George and Preston had to choose 3 people to face eviction. --MSalmon (talk) 15:37, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

I like it the way it is. Changing it back will make it messy. WilmaT-H09 (talk) 16:38, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

I know but BB14 was different as Michael was not a HM so the only way we could do it was to use Nominated --MSalmon (talk) 16:40, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

I actually agree with MSalmon and RachelRice, you're right, it has been done in CBB4 but also when Terry was head of house in CBB6, then obviously in BB4 as well with Ray, and even last year with Deana on launch night. She made the nominations, just like Lauren, Louie and Sophie made the nominations this series. ThisIsDanny (talk) 16:44, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, they made the nominations so should be included even if they are the same (which doesn't matter at all)--MSalmon (talk) 16:47, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay, I think you are all right too, however, the other format was perfectly fine in my books. The evidence you have provided seems to express that this is the way it's always been, and, as I'm a newbie, I suppose I should respect your views. WilmaT-H09 (talk) 18:44, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

I know they are the same nominations but that doesn't matter --MSalmon (talk) 19:11, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

It looks a right mess like that, I have changed it back because we had agreed it originally. It makes so much more sense, it seems that arguments always seem to happen on these pages. 81.158.219.86 (talk) 19:40, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

You obviously didn't read what I wrote, so could you please stop trying to change it --MSalmon (talk) 19:50, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

I read what you wrote actually. I put forward the idea the other day, simply for the fact that having all of the nominations in all 3 of their boxes is unnecessary. I can see where you are coming at in a way but honestly, Cult of Celebrity means that their rows stay the same size as the others, and the table looks a lot more uniform. And the notes explained how they nominated, along with the blue nominated blocks. I thought this was resolved, but it seems impossible to edit the page. 81.158.219.86 (talk) 19:54, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

The height of the rows doesn't matter at all, and please don't talk about me behind my back. --MSalmon (talk) 19:56, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Cult of Celebrity - mini table

I don't know who added the 'housemates nominated' column but it is not needed. The Cult of Celebrity will surely get more powers than to nominate others each week (assuming it will be a running thing). I'm changing it back for the time being to the original two part table. WilmaT-H09 (talk) 20:00, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Cult of Celebrity votes

Is it worth mentioning each of the cult of celebrity votes or not? Obviously they all decided on Ron as their first nomination but they each made individual votes beforehand. Do these need to be added in the page or are they not worth mentioning? ThisIsDanny (talk) 20:15, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

I personally think they are not worth mentioning and that including them will complicate things. WilmaT-H09 (talk) 20:27, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

It's a shortlist, but not a nomination. It might be nice to include it but I don't see how it would be possible, and as it's not actual nominations, it's not really needed. –anemoneprojectors– 23:10, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay thanks, yeah I didn't see a way how it would have been included, just thought I'd suggest it in case it was relevant. ThisIsDanny (talk) 23:22, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Dates of birth

Dates of birth are not to be included unless they have been widely published by reliable sources. GimliDotNet ^{(Speak to me,Stuff I've done)} 17:01, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

I agree. However, the ones without the full date and just the year are from the official website. For example Danielle's age on the website meant she had to be born in 1979/1980. ThisIsDanny (talk) 17:08, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

But then again, everywhere says Courtney is 18 and her birthday is tomorrow, but then the website said that she was 19 on entry so it might not be very reliable. ThisIsDanny (talk) 17:09, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

There is emphasis on widely published. One source (even from the official source) doesn't really cover it. GimliDotNet ^{(Speak to me,Stuff I've done)} 17:16, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Cult of Celebrity

I think the section about Cult of Celebrity is pointless right now as it shows exactly what's in the nominations table. The table especially is pointless as there was only 1 group of celebrities that were part of the cult and it obviously hasn't carried on. To improve this I think there should be more information about the twist and how they decided who faced eviction. I think the shortlisted housemates should be noted too. To improve the table then this could be included...

	Day 2	Day 3	Day 4
Lauren	Carol	Courtney	Vicky
Louie	Ron	Abz	Bruce
Sophie	Courtney	Danielle	Courtney
Final Decision	Ron	Danielle	Vicky

Just a suggestion but I think it could work. Or something similar to this, but it's much better than what's there at the moment. 176.255.13.110 (talk) 21:23, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

I agree with the fact that there should be more details about the twist instead of just the table but hasn't the shortlisted votes already been discussed? I know we said it shouldnt be in the nominations table, confused of whether it was ruled out of the whole page or not. I think this is a good idea though. ThisIsDanny (talk) 12:25, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Lets do this. Good idea. WilmaT-H09 (talk) 12:29, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Round 5 of nominations

Should we add another column to the nominations column as there will be another 2 rounds after this Wednesday? --MSalmon (talk) 20:41, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

 Done ThisIsDanny (talk) 20:49, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

If there is not a 5th round then it can be removed --MSalmon (talk) 20:49, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

There will be 7 housemates in the final, table needs updating to reflect this --MSalmon (talk) 21:33, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

 Done, although I don't know why the 1st, 2nd and 3rd colours aren't working. ThisIsDanny (talk) 21:51, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Doesn't matter, fixed it ThisIsDanny (talk) 21:52, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, and apparently the HMs will nominate in pairs this weekend for the final round --MSalmon (talk) 21:53, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

They are.WilmaT-H09 (talk) 08:57, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

No confirmation yet if it will be a double or not, since Wednesday's show is only one hour long--MSalmon (talk) 09:17, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Oh okay. They could be splitting it with Wentworth inbetween again? But we'll wait and see.WilmaT-H09 (talk) 09:33, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

No there will just be one show as BOTS will be after Wentworth --MSalmon (talk) 09:54, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

By the way, the number of nominations each housemate receives tonight should be divided by two as they are nominating in pairs so it counts as ONE nomination. --MSalmon (talk) 19:52, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

The final six cells for this Friday's final needs to be fixed as the same as last years summer series --MSalmon (talk) 21:17, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Just realised it says last years summer series, thought it said this years meaning BB14. I'll have a look. ThisIsDanny (talk) 21:33, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Is it not already like that? ThisIsDanny (talk) 21:34, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

No, I would do it but I would mess it up --MSalmon (talk) 21:36, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

This is what it looks like with text in, is it not the same? :/

Evicted	Danielle Fewest votes to save	Ron Fewest votes (out of 3) to save	Sophie Fewest votes to save	Dustin Fewest votes to save	Courtney Fewest votes to save	Fewest votes to save	Fewest votes to save
						Fewest votes to save	Fewest votes to save
				Bruce Fewest votes to save	Louie Fewest votes to save	Fewest votes to save
						Fewest votes to save

ThisIsDanny (talk) 22:08, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Never mind, I have done it now --MSalmon (talk) 22:14, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Okay thanks, sorry I had no idea what you meant :) ThisIsDanny (talk) 22:16, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

I did say look at CBB10 as an example --MSalmon (talk) 22:16, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Msalmon, he was being friendly. Waterlooroadfan107 (talk) 18:18, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

I know --MSalmon (talk) 18:23, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

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