Talk:Caterham

Closure of the barracks

The Caterham Barracks Community Trust and the Coldstream Guards appear to think the barracks were closed in 1990 but the The Institution of Historic Building Conservation, for example, makes it 1995. Perhaps it's a question of the defintion of "closed". Anyway, I'm guessing Jrleighton was there in 1993 and so would be in a position to know the status at the time - In the barracks or living locally? --Mucky Duck 09:21, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Haven't they they turned it into a shopping centre? 217.205.167.173 11:00, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Sources of local Information

I know a few websites for local information. Caterham On-Line is one such example. It hasn't been updated for several years and so is a bit limited but does have a forum if you want to trace people for example. There's not many users so don't expect hundreds of replies.

The Bourne Society is the local history group. Loads of useful information and they publish history books of many of the local villages based around the now underground Bourne river.

My favourite (I declare I'm biased because it's my website) is The Caterham Link which is a website for the CR3 postcode area and so also covers Woldingham, Whytleafe and Chaldon. It's the only place I know to find out about local events such as fetes, carnivals, charity events, blood donations, local clubs from scouts to flower arranging and loads of other stuff.

Finally, the council's website has some local information although they cover the whole tandridge area Tandridge District Council. Caterhamlink 07:58, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Pubs and restaurants

Do we realy need this section? It's not a compleate list and is more advertising then anything else. I propose that we remove the section Oddbodz (talk) 13:58, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

 Done --Mrmatiko (talk) 13:28, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Help with pronunciation

Hello, I am not a native English-speaker, and I have never done an IPA transcription. However, I would like to see the pronunciation for Caterham added to this article. Based on this sample, I tried my best and came up with: Caterham (/ˈkeɪtɛrˈʊm/ KAY-tur-UUM). Could someone help me by verifying whether this is correct? I am not confident whether the final vowel should be /ʊ/, /ʊ/ or /ə/. In the provided sample it sounds like /ʊ/, but I think I might have heard it also with /ə/ (as pronunciation of Caterham F1 team). --hydrox (talk) 01:54, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

I think I made an error in the second vowel, it's not /ɛr/ but a simple /ər/. Furthermore, I viewed a few other -ham English place name articles with IPAs here on Wikipedia (e.g. Durham, Cheltenham and Nottingham), and they all have -ham as unstressed /əm/. Still, I listened to F1 commentator David Croft on a broadcast recording of the ongoing GP in Australia, and I think he always consistently uses /ʊm/ for -ham in Caterham, like in the above sample. So, I could go ahead and add the following IPA using /ʊ/ to the article: Caterham (/ˈkeɪtərʊm/ KAY-tər-uum). Again, please correct this if it's wrong. --hydrox (talk) 03:48, 17 March 2013 (UTC) P.s. Another source

I've never really understood IPA. But locally I would suggest that Caterham is normally pronounced with only two syllables (or at the very least with a very weak middle syllable) - something like KAY-trum. Bagunceiro (talk) 00:51, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

I think that would be in IPA /ˈkeɪtrʊm/ and respelled KAY-truum, since a single 'u' in respelling translates to  ⁽ⁱ⁾  ʌ and a double 'uu' specifies  ⁽ⁱ⁾  ʊ. Anyway, I believe and it makes lots of sense that it is actually pronounced with only two syllables. There can even be several "correct" pronunciations, e.g. this sample seems to have it with three syllables, while this sample coherently uses a two-syllable pronunciation. But the two-syllable one seems most endemic. --hydrox (talk) 14:50, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

I have carefully reviewed your sources, for which I thank you both - I consider myself somewhat of an expert on WP:IPAE, having amended tens of place names, where enough people have taken an interest, using consensus and I hope you approve in due course of the solution reached.- Adam37 Talk 11:30, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

I don't live in Caterham, but I frequently hear train announcements with Caterham as the destination, and they always pronounce it with three syllables, roughly as cater-em, with 'cater' the same as in the verb 'to cater', and 'em' with a schwa as the vowel. The middle syllable is unstressed, so local people might well elide it. I live in Thornton Heath, and an honest transcription of how many locals pronounce it would be something like For'n 'eef - which I don't think would be very helpful to visitors asking for directions!86.144.113.112 (talk) 13:23, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Location

I have a question. Why is Caterham described as lying close to the A22, X miles away from South Croydon (which is on the A22) and X miles away from Guildford (which is nowhere near the A22)? Guildford's a bit of an odd point to take, isn't it? 81.143.89.182 (talk) 14:08, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Guildford is the county town of Surrey so locations in Surrey are measured relative to it. -- Mrmatiko (talk) 18:46, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

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