Talk:Candy apple

What about Caramel apples?!

Caramel Apples are more common than Candy apples in many parts of the U.S. and Canada where candy apples are simply unheard of, don't they deserve more than a line about "varieties"?

I have intended to separate this into two articles for some time but haven't gotten around to it. Rmhermen 14:18, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

And are candy apples different from toffee apples? The toffee apples I have had in England always have a brown, toffee coating, whereas the candy apples I have had in America have had the red candy coating. DavidFarmbrough 09:24, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

IMHO one article should be OK. They all seem very similar. --Kjoonlee 10:50, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Having read the articles and comments I think there should only be the one article. Toffee apples (which are different clearly in that they have TOFFEE on them), candy apples, caramel apples, or whatever, maybe they have different coating, but the basic principal is the same. Do we need a seperate article for Orange Smarties? (or for our American readers, Red M&Ms and Blue M&Ms). If there were a move to gauge support for the merge, then I would have to support a merge. But the article should be better in general to explain the different types of, erm, sweet covered apples. --SnakeSeries 12:24, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

We could also consider that there is a world outside of America, and in the English speaking parts of this world, "toffee apple" is the most commonly used description for this type of confectionary. 15:54, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

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The Candy Apple and Caramel Apple used to be combined, but were intentionally split. I'm not sure a merge is warrented. -- RM 14:44, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

I split them so obviously I don't agree. These are very different items. One is covered in rock hard candy, the other is covered in soft gooey caramel and usually other additional items like nuts or chocolates. not the same at all. Not to mention that each item has at least two different names to keep straight (a mistake I made when initially splitting the article). Though when they were combined they were a mess of contradictions, too. Rmhermen 21:01, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Candy/toffee apples and caramel apples are two different things and while it is a good idea to have a link to caramel apple from candy apple and vice versa, they are different and should remain separate. From an international perspective, half of my family lives in the U.S. and half in Canada. The Canadians all eat candy apples, while the Americans eat caramel apples...it's nearly impossible to find a candy apple where I live live in the States even though my grocer has more caramel apples than they know what to do with. Caramel apples are almost always covered in nuts along with a layer of caramel, whilst candy apples have no nuts and a candied coating. They're just different foods and should be different pages. After all, we make a distinction between a chardonnay and a sauvignon blanc. Having said that, if there were some generic term (not candy or caramel), then I MIGHT support a new/merge article which described different types of apples. Mgturn 01:33, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

FWIW, given the basic commonality in making these things, give or take a few degrees of heat on the sugar, I would have kept them together. At the risk of stirring up yet another Brit/Am thing, if "in many parts of the U.S. and Canada where candy apples are simply unheard of" then might it be a concession to WP:CSB to move this article to toffee apple, which is the only name for any "apple-on-stick" treats in the UK? At least it would be recognisable to North Americans as a cognate of "taffy apple", whereas "candy apple" is pretty meaningless to Brits. In fact I'd guess the (surprising) lack of British contributions to this page reflects that 'alien' name. As an aside, in the UK as well as getting the bright red commercial ones at fairgrounds etc, they're often made at home (eg BBC recipe). FlagSteward 13:41, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

They are two different thing, taffee or caramel is a soft and chewy coating while candy is a rock hard (and flavored) coating which allows no additional "mix-in". An American wouldn't call a candy apple a toffee apple or a taffy apple. In fact I had never seen a candy apple growing up in Illinois (they are seen in Michigan though). We made and ate caramel/taffy apples. Moving it would only add to the confusion of people who have never seen one - expecting it to be a red colored varient of a chewy coated apple. Rmhermen 13:55, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

I also re-cleaned up caramel apple, where you mistakenly confused taffee apples with candy apples. Taffee apple is another name for caramel, not toffee (in apple coatings, at least). Rmhermen 14:00, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm american and where I live candy apples are a very prevalent part of our culture. Perhaps it is regional, but the name of this article--candy apple-- should stay the same. --DavisJune (talk) 17:43, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Caramel apples, Candy apples, and Chocolate apples are the same

Having separate articles for these is silly.

The manufacture is partly different, but partly similar. For the eaters, they're the same sort of treat. For the producers, they have almost identical ingredients (e.g. you find them mostly at apple harvest time, and the coating is mostly sugar). In all ways they're either the same or very similar. Merge. Gronky (talk) 18:40, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Reeses cups and MM's use mostly the same ingredients too by that count - so just one big article on sugar perhaps? Rmhermen (talk) 21:11, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Reeses cups and MM's are missing the main ingredient (apples), they don't come on sticks, they're not associated with harvest season, they're never home-made. My point stands. Caramel and Candy apples are the same thing, and Reeses cups and MM's aren't. Gronky (talk) 00:37, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Candy and caramel are not the same thing. Candy apples are not associated with harvest in many countries - perhaps not even in the U.S. I make a fair imitation of Reeses at home, too. Rmhermen (talk) 05:39, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

And there are different types of Mars bar, but they're all similar enough to go in one article. Same for this.

One person's culinary exploits doesn't change the truth of a generality. Gronky (talk) 15:05, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Apple brown betty and apple strudel are just apples and sugar too. What generality? Rmhermen (talk) 19:19, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Toffee, taffee, caramel, candy. I'm confused.

So I'm confused. Is a British "toffee apple" the same as a candy apple or a caramel apple? It seems to me that it would be the same as the candy apple, but the caramel apple article says that "toffee apple" is another name for a caramel apple. The comments that I see here seem to indicate that my assumption is correct, but I'm wary of changing the article. Do Americans call caramel apples "toffee apples"? What is the difference between toffee and taffy? For the record, I am Canadian, and prefer candy apples. --  timc  talk   15:38, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

I think we have identified taffy apple as the same as caramel apple and toffee apples the same as candy apples. Although it is possible that some people make no distinction in terms and use them interchangeably. Rmhermen (talk) 21:30, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Toffee apples have the same texture as candy apples (that is brittle) but a taste more like caramel apples (unless they're made with treacle toffee, then they taste of treacle). eyeball226 (talk) 17:29, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Newark News reference(s)

This is a bit confused-- the quote itself ends "according to the Newark News of 1948" and then the reference gives two references-- 1948 and 1964. I am guessing the 1964 quote had an "On This Day" feature reprinting something from the 1948 one, or something like that? Anyway, need it be this confusing, why not just refer directly to the 1948 one?

SimonTrew (talk) 19:12, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Toffee Apple

The suggestion of the text here is that toffee apples are some kind of equivalent to candy apples. They are not, they are no more an equivalent than caramel apples which have their own article. The article Apple, mentions:

• In the UK, a toffee apple is a traditional confection made by coating an apple in hot toffee and allowing it to cool. Similar treats in the US are candy apples (coated in a hard shell of crystallised sugar syrup), and caramel apples, coated with cooled caramel.

In recent years I've seen candy apples appear here in Ireland (toffee apples having been prevalent before) and they are entirely different in appearance, taste and consistency - apart from having the apple part in common. The article seems to be very much written from a US perspective, or from people who haven't experienced actual toffee apples. 78.137.128.232 (talk) 17:28, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

I find this article somewhat irritating. Saying that toffee apples are the same as candy apples is just incorrect. Unfortunately I'm not confident enough at writing to do any more than edit minor mistakes. eyeball226 (talk) 13:49, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

300 degrees?

"...about 300 degrees on a candy thermometer." I'm assuming this is Fahrenheit, yes? In the civilized world outside of the US and Liberia, we use Celsius. Since 300 Kelvin is room temperature, we can be pretty sure it's not that. Perhaps someone who knows for sure whether it's in Fahrenheit can clarify in the article? SmashTheState (talk) 04:17, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Need better source for claim: "because these festivals fall in the wake of the annual apple harvest."

The following statement and cited source do not correspond as strongly as they could. The source does not contain any explicit statement about these festivals or their relation to the annual apple harvest, though the content and date of the source are suggestive. "These are a common treat at autumn festivals in Western culture in the Northern Hemisphere, such as Halloween and Guy Fawkes Night because these festivals fall in the wake of the annual apple harvest.[1]" Leifeinarson (talk) 21:35, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

History of Halloween weblink not working?

The weblink to http://www.thehistoryofhalloween.net/?page=2 is not working for me: anyone have alternative suggestions or fixes? Leifeinarson (talk) 21:41, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Candy Apples in Japan? Source not verifiable?

The source cited about candy apples in Japan does not seem to contain any reference to apples (or grapes or tangerines). Leifeinarson (talk) 01:22, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Template:Apples

Dear All, please see here a discussion on the inclusion of the "Apples" template on food products. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 12:29, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Candy Apples vs. Caramel Apples

I have no expertise on this topic and am thoroughly confused by the article. The article asserts that candy apples and caramel apples differ in the process by which they are made. How so? As I understand it, in both cases the apple is dipped in hot, molten candy, which remains in place as the apple cools. If there is a difference in process, please clarify it.Bill (talk) 05:01, 31 October 2020 (UTC)