Talk:Calvin Johnson

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Good articleCalvin Johnson has been listed as one of the Sports and recreation good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
March 2, 2007Good article nomineeListed
September 6, 2007WikiProject peer reviewReviewed
December 2, 2008Good article reassessmentKept
Current status: Good article

Cleanup

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What parts of the article need cleanup? —Disavian (talk/contribs) 04:13, 12 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

The "football" section could perhaps be divided into a college and high school section, as the information routinely skips back and forth between college and high school careers, and is generally unorganized. —Pinkfloyd5040 (talk/contribs) 05:57, 12 November 2006 (UTC)Reply
I've attempted to remedy that. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 23:24, 1 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
I also would like to see a table that lists his stats each year, for at least his college career. An infobox should be added with the picture put in there. Replacing the image with a free one is also preferred. You can use {{Infobox gridiron football person}} for the infobox (there is no college one, yet). --MECUtalk 23:39, 15 November 2006 (UTC)Reply
See "Expand" below for a couple stats tables, see "Infobox" below for the infobox. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 06:10, 18 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Infobox

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This section is a semi-sandbox to collaborate on the content of the infobox. See {{Infobox gridiron football person}} for documentation. My initial attempt at filling it in is to the right. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 23:21, 17 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Expand

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In my search to fill in the template, I found his espn stat page, a cbs sports profile, a nice article on him, and 791,000 google results, This article officially has no excuse for being so short. :) Also, for someone called "the best player in college football," I think he ranks a little higher than "Low" priority. I'll up it to "Mid" for now. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 23:39, 17 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Error I noticed

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I really don't want to mess up the article by editing myself but i'm saying this so someone will change the thing i noticed. In the first paragraph it says: "He is clearly the most talented wide recieverS in all of college football in 2006" which i'm pretty sure is wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PeterJI1 (talkcontribs)

Thanks for pointing that out. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 05:42, 5 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Suggestions

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I have a couple suggestions that i think would improve the article. I am saying this and not doing anything because I really don't want to end up accidentily deleting the whole thing or something. I really think it would be better to change the section called college drafting to Recruiting or something to do with him being recruited. The title of this section really threw me off because I thought it would be about him and the nfl draft which brings me to my second suggestion. After the college career, have a section about the nfl draft and include this sentence which i think is great---->Johnson was SI.com's Midseason NFL Draft Projection #1 pick. I am in no way critizing the article or the person who wrote it, i am just suggesting ways to improve it. Sorry if i am suggesting too much and not doing anything.---->PeterJI1 04:59, 6 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for your suggestions! The subsections of the football section were somewhat arbitrary, as the section was a large, disorganized block of text before that. I'll go ahead and make Recruiting and NFL Draft now. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 19:53, 9 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Vertical

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I seem to remember reading a recent quote in The Technique from Reggie Ball that said while Calvin's official leaping ability is 45", that's as far as the thing that measures it goes, and that his real vertical is higher than that. If we could find that quote, perhaps we could nail down his vertical. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 19:58, 9 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

During the ESPN television broadcast where he was given his Biletnikoff Award, he confirmed that he has a 45" vertical. -Drdisque 19:59, 9 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
He was given the nick name Megatron while at Georgia Tech.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.10.33.106 (talk) 06:35, 2 March 2011 (UTC)Reply 

Disambiguation

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I think that Calvin Johnson should redirect directly to this page and put one of the things thats says if you want the musician click here, since obviously this one is more famous, especially since he will be a top draft pick if he enters next years draft. I have done this once, but forgot how. Superscubasteve 14:01, 14 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

I disagree. Niether Johnson is so famous that they should get the root page. The other one has his own record label, and has been in the music biz for roughly forever. They're both very notable in their own right. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 14:31, 14 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
I still think it's only a matter of time before this CJ gets the root page :) Superscubasteve 02:09, 17 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
I think it's a matter of how many pages link to a certain page. Right now, about twice as many pages link to Calvin Johnson (musician) than to Calvin Johnson (football); so, about 2:1. So, once it gets to about 1:5 to 1:15, yes, I could see the root page belonging to our football star. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 02:39, 17 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
I agree with Disavian, the link ratio will reach a critical mass and at that point all of Calvin Johnson (musician)'s fans won't be able to disagree. However I believe Superscubasteve is correct in that it won't take very long. The NFL articles do a heavy amount of linking and I'm sure he'll have an entire city that wants to read about him. Captkrob 17:40, 17 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Image

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The picture with him holding the ball is better! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.244.215.19 (talkcontribs)

If you wish to have that picture in the article, it would be best later in the article, included outside of the infobox. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 21:15, 16 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
Looks great :) —Disavian (talk/contribs) 21:25, 16 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
While I do love the pic I uploaded, the new pic looks like 'HD' compared to my 'SD' pic. Good find. Superscubasteve 02:08, 17 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
The creator of that pic is the current photography editor of The Technique and one of the best photographers that I know. His website is http://jmhphoto.net/. I especially love his IR photo of the the shaft. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 02:17, 17 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
I went to flickr and found us some better pictures :) I still prefer Jamie's headshot for the lead/infobox, but the new ones really add something to the other sections. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 16:59, 6 September 2007 (UTC)Reply
Aren't there any more recent photos available?69.228.170.182 (talk) 08:43, 20 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

GA Review 3/2/07

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Hello, I just finished reading over this article and gave it an evaluation according to WP:WIAGA. In general, the article is well written and structured, but could use some additional information.

  • Well Written – Pass, However please consider adding what the numbers in the lead represent. Example: 6-5 feet, 239lbs. General readers who may not know much about Football may not understand what the numbers mean.
  • Verifiable – Pass, Article is well referenced – with the exception of the SI #4 detail. All references are properly cited according to WP:CS
  • Broad – Pass, Article establishes that Johnson is a unique athlete, productive player, and has a good character.
  • NPOV – Pass, neutral for the most part.
  • Stable – Pass, History shows no signs of major edit wars.
  • Images – Pass, However, the second image is somewhat questionable as it lacks meta-data and a believable summary. Since there’s no way to prove the image belongs to someone else, I guess it’s fine.

GA – Passed!

I would recommend adding information about Johnson’s personal and early life, but it may be hard to find right now. Consider looking into the suggestions I left you, as I feel they will help the article reach a Featured Article Status someday. When you feel the article is ready for a FA review, please be sure to get a peer review first, this will fix many little errors. Keep up the good work. --  ShadowJester07  ►Talk  20:53, 2 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for all of the constructive suggestions! :) —Disavian (talk/contribs) 00:29, 3 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

Infobox text color

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Okay, what's with all of the reversions and revisions? Let's decide on a color and stick to it. I vote white, as grey on blue is sort of difficult to read. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 06:42, 17 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

How is that difficult to read? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrisjnelson (talkcontribs)
I have no difficulty reading the gray on blue. -Drdisque 07:06, 17 May 2007 (UTC)Reply
Admittedly, my left monitor sucks pretty hard. I'm just looking for some consensus on the color, that's all. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 07:23, 17 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

Personality

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An anon removed this:

Stating:

However, having read what are probably a hundred news articles about him, I assure you that they make frequent mention of him being humble/well-mannered/et cetera. Also note the GA reviewer appreciated this extra detail, and the peer reviewer suggested that we expand upon it. What would be the best way of doing so? —Disavian (talk/contribs) 12:57, 19 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

Replace: it's cited and seems appropriate. -Drdisque (talk) 13:48, 19 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. ^ Thomason, Kyle (2004-10-29). "Talented freshmen earn playing time, contribute". The Technique. Retrieved 2007-05-17. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)

A-class

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I've closed the A-class review because there's been no activity there for over two months. DrKiernan (talk) 09:17, 6 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

That's unfortunate, but understandable. Is that a norm in terms of WP:BIO A-class review, or an anomaly? —Disavian (talk/contribs) 13:55, 6 December 2007 (UTC)Reply
It's been very slow just recently. I think interest in the review process has tailed off, and it isn't a particular reflection on the article. DrKiernan (talk) 15:04, 6 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

GA Reassessment

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This discussion is transcluded from Talk:Calvin Johnson (American football)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.

This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force in an effort to ensure all listed Good articles continue to meet the Good article criteria. In reviewing the article, I have found there are a number of issues that need to be addressed.--Jackyd101 (talk) 11:06, 20 November 2008 (UTC)Reply

  • It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose):   b (MoS):  
The prose is pretty good. 7/10.--Jackyd101 (talk) 11:06, 20 November 2008 (UTC)Reply
  • It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references):   b (citations to reliable sources):   c (OR):  
Referencing has problems, with a number of unaddressed [citation needed] tags. Please sort these out soon so that this review can continue.--Jackyd101 (talk) 11:06, 20 November 2008 (UTC)Reply
  • It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects):   b (focused):  
  • It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    a (fair representation):   b (all significant views):  
  • It is stable.
     
  • It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.
    a (tagged and captioned):   b (lack of images does not in itself exclude GA):   c (non-free images have fair use rationales):  
  • Overall:
    a Pass/Fail:  

I will check back in no less than seven days. If progress on the references is being made, I will do a quick further review but I am sure the article will remain listed as a Good article. Otherwise, it may be delisted (such a decision may be challenged through WP:GAR). If improved after it has been delisted, it may be nominated at WP:GAN again. Feel free to drop a message on my talk page if you have any questions, and many thanks for all the hard work that has gone into this article thus far. (If you are really busy, let me know and I'll give more time. I need to know however so I can see that someone is interested in addressing these concerns. Regards--Jackyd101 (talk) 11:06, 20 November 2008 (UTC)Reply

Although no work has been done, I have taken the unusual step in this one instance of hiding the offending [citation needed] tags in the article. Someone needs to address this, but for now the article is good enough to survive as a GA without these things being cited.--Jackyd101 (talk) 09:55, 2 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

Personal life

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Hi, due to the youth of this sports person, it is acceptable for their personal life section to only cover the period before they began their career. However, as they grow older it becomes more important for information on their life outside sport to appear in the article. Please ensure that as the person develops their article does too. For an example of how such a section might look, see Brian Urlacher and for pointers on how to expand and improve such a section, see this guide. Thanks--Jackyd101 (talk) 10:33, 30 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

Edit request from , 11 October 2011

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Sandy Creek High School officially retired the #81 Patriot football jersey of Calvin Johnson at their home game against Spalding HS on October 22, 2010 at The Battlefield Field in Tyrone Georgia. <reference>[1]

Wstebar (talk) 15:37, 11 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

  DoneBility (talk) 16:12, 11 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

Image inappropriate

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It makes little sense to use a photo of Megatron in a Georgia Tech jersey when he's played 5 prolific seasons in the NFL -- all for the Detroit Lions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.6.96.59 (talk) 23:39, 22 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

There are no free images available with Johnson as a Lion. Eagles 24/7 (C) 23:44, 22 January 2012 (UTC)Reply
Not only is it a free picture, it's a high quality free picture of him, so I'm failing to see a problem here. I may, however, be biased by my alma mater. Disavian (talk) 01:49, 23 January 2012 (UTC)Reply
That too. Quality over recentism is always the case for infobox images. Eagles 24/7 (C) 01:52, 23 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

So, now we have another option for the lead picture. Which do you guys like better? I included these at roughly the size that they appear in the infobox. Disavian (talk) 21:57, 2 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

  • I kind of feel that the older image is still the higher-quality one. The contrast is really bad in the more recent one, making it more difficult to make out the subject, which is kind of the point of having a picture, is it not? LaMenta3 (talk) 22:20, 2 October 2012 (UTC)Reply
  • I cropped the lead image so the contrast wasn't so bad and also uploaded an image of Johnson in the wide receiver stance located lower in the article. Regards, — Moe ε 00:40, 5 October 2012 (UTC)Reply
I've snapped a few photos of Calvin at Ford Field, but none of them even touch that Georgia Tech photo. I have to say, I think that's still the best free photo of him available. Maybe when he gets on twitter again I'll just ask him for one - if he saw the request I have no doubt he would accommodate. 207.118.132.158 (talk) 14:16, 28 December 2012 (UTC)Reply
  • I also think the Georgia Tech image is the best quality image so far. Barring a better quality one, can we just make that the infobox image? I value quality of this kind over anything else. If all we had was a half dozen fuzzy images we could go with a Lions one. But right now we have a half dozen fuzzy images, and one really good one, and until an image of equal quality comes along, we should feature the best image as the infobox image. --Jayron32 04:19, 31 December 2012 (UTC)Reply


Error/Edit Request

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It seems like the "Most receiving yards in a three game span" and "Most receiving yards in a four game span" records have been broken by Josh Gordon in weeks 11-13 and 10-13 of the 2013 season respectively (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GordJo02/gamelog/) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.74.30.50 (talk) 21:41, 23 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

I've gone ahead and deleted those two records per your suggestion. Thanks for helping. :) Disavian (talk) 00:13, 25 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

Proper nickname, s'il vous plait??

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What is this guy's nickname? Is it Megatron or Optimus Prime? Or is it both? The introduction makes it quite confusing. BigMac — Preceding unsigned comment added by Borninbronx10 (talkcontribs) 19:54, 24 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

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Irrelevant Christian paragraph

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Who puts the irrelevant Christian paragraph in all these sports articles? It is the same people subtly advancing their right-wing agendas. LeoTheCat3 (talk) 17:03, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply