Talk:Calleva

What should be done

Calleva Inc. is a non-profit organization like Martha's Table, and runs programs like those in Category:Summer camps in Maryland. None of these have been marked for speedy deletion. If you have a problem with the way this article is written you may conduct research and rewrite it how you wish, or dispute it. Callevacamp (talk) 16:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

FAO Admin - should this page be deleted, I propose that it redirects to Calleva Atrebatum instead. Booglamay (talk) - 17:00, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

When reffering to the Calleva Atrebatum I would expect people to say 'Calleva Atrebatum' instead of simply 'Calleva'. When referring to Calleva Inc. people do just say 'Calleva'.Callevacamp (talk) 18:36, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

It seems you've misread my comment. I said that in the event that this article is deleted, I proposed a redirection. Should this page be deleted, there would be no "Calleva Inc" to redirect to on grounds of notability. Statistically speaking, a Google search of the term "calleva" turns up 8/10 results (front page) pertaining to Calleva Atrebatum. This isn't grounds for moving/deleting/creating articles on its own, but may assert that the shortened name is sufficient (as an abbreviation) to redirect.

The roman town, along with MANY local businesses, groups etc. are referred to as Calleva. Calleva Atrebatum was one of the largest and most studied Roman settlements in Britain). I can't comment on your company as I've never heard of it. However, if notability is fully established on this page, a redirect will not be necessary. I suspect that this article may end up at AfD shortly though. Booglamay (talk) - 20:47, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

What can I change about this article to make sure this doesn't happen? I believe I have established notoriety, as Calleva offers the largest outdoor program in MD. Is there anything else I should edit? Callevacamp (talk) 13:34, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Over 10000 people come through Calleva every year, and it is just as important as anything else in the 'summer camps in maryland' category, I think. How does it differ from them? Callevacamp (talk) 13:52, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Have a look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Calleva - it'll show you the deletion discussion that's going on. It looks as if the article won't be deleted - if so, would you object to (what another editor suggested) moving this article to something like Calleva (summer camp) and use the Calleva page as a redirect to Calleva Atrebatum? Booglamay (talk) - 13:58, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Calleva is not just a summer camp; it has year round programming, and does other things besides 'camping' (I'm still looking for a comparable category). Perhaps we can compromise Is there a template for saying something like "Looking for Calleva Atrebatum? I would gladly put something like this at the top of the page if you wish. Callevacamp (talk) 17:09, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

I have added a hatnote to the page. Does this work for you? Callevacamp (talk) 18:04, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

That would be cool. There's a template that would display as:

This article is about the outdoor educational group. For the Roman settlement, see Calleva Atrebatum.

Booglamay (talk) - 18:26, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Merger proposal

I propose that Camp Calleva is merged somehow into this page. I don't think the page warrants its own article, but this page may benefit from some of the information to be brought over. Booglamay (talk) - 12:45, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Could we have some perspective here?

I had just read an article on another site briefly mentioning the Roman settlement of Calleva and was quite surprised to be sent here when I did a search for that name. Now, I'm sure that this non-profit recreational concern in Maryland is a wonderful thing, but in an encyclopedia catering to English speakers around the world, I don't think there's much question that a lost Roman city in England, in which new archaeological discoveries are still being made, deserves top billing, even if only half of its name is "Calleva." Janko (talk) 22:23, 8 July 2010 (UTC)