Talk:Calculation of Zakāt
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WHERE DID THIS COME FROM???
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Long, detailed prescriptions for what to pay in zakat. Written by an editor named Eltoum. Did it come from a hadith? A book of fiqh? WHERE? BoogaLouie (talk) 22:42, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
- OK, I found at least one source. Still, such a basic piece of information missing. --BoogaLouie (talk) 01:16, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
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IMHO the article would be enhanced if the subject were broadened. I propose changing the title from Zakāt Livestock to something like Zakat amount, i.e. the subject of the article would be the kinds of zakatable wealth -- livestock, agricultural goods, precious metals, minerals -- and the rate at which the wealth is taxed. --BoogaLouie (talk) 01:16, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
move Zakāt Livestock article? (pasted from Eperoton's talk page edit
Canvasing you and CounterTime and Eltoum about changing Zakāt Livestock to something broader, i.e. an article on determining zakatable wealth and income.
Another question, what should be the name of the article? Amount of zakat (with a fork at Zakat#Amount? --BoogaLouie (talk) 15:24, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
- {{ping|BoogaLouie}} I think this article should be merged into Zakat, keeping in mind the distinctions between traditional doctrine and recommendations given for voluntary zakat on the one hand (discussed in Doctrine->Amount) and contemporary legislation in countries where it's a tax on the other hand (discussed under Contemporary practice->Collection). It looks like the only parts worth merging are the ones you've recently added. The tables are overly detailed and unencyclopedic. Eperoton (talk) 04:08, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
- {{ping|Eperoton}} There are a lot of issues involved in what is zakatable and why, and what the zakat owed is and why. I think it merits an article. --BoogaLouie (talk) 19:52, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
- {{ping|BoogaLouie}} I agree in principle, though if there's enough material to spin off another article, it should build on the material we already have in Zakat. I've summarized a description of modern tax codes there from a more detailed source, which could be reflected more fully in a detailed article. We also want to distinguish between the different types of zakat rules: tax codes of specific modern states, rulings of specific traditional jurists, and recommendations on specific websites should all be attributes to their sources to avoid confusion, since there's a number of variations involved. I would also suggest naming the article Calculation of zakat, since the issue at stake is not just the amount, but also -- as you point out yourself -- what is and isn't zakatable. Eperoton (talk) 06:05, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
- {{ping|Eperoton}} More or less agree. Will wait a while for any reply, comments, suggestions from CounterTime and Eltoum. --BoogaLouie (talk) 18:32, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
- {{ping|BoogaLouie}} I agree in principle, though if there's enough material to spin off another article, it should build on the material we already have in Zakat. I've summarized a description of modern tax codes there from a more detailed source, which could be reflected more fully in a detailed article. We also want to distinguish between the different types of zakat rules: tax codes of specific modern states, rulings of specific traditional jurists, and recommendations on specific websites should all be attributes to their sources to avoid confusion, since there's a number of variations involved. I would also suggest naming the article Calculation of zakat, since the issue at stake is not just the amount, but also -- as you point out yourself -- what is and isn't zakatable. Eperoton (talk) 06:05, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
Title changed edit
... here per Eperoton's suggestion. Still needs much work. Intend to use this book (al-Qaradawi, Yusuf (1969). Fiqh az-Zakat, Volume 1 (PDF). Monzer Kahf (translator). Saudi Arabia, London: King Abdulaziz University, Dar al Taqwa. ISBN 978-967-5062-766. Retrieved 14 August 2016. {{cite book}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |1= (help)) in particular to add content when I have time. --BoogaLouie (talk) 19:17, 24 August 2016 (UTC)