Talk:Burkhan Khaldun

Latest comment: 3 months ago by AirshipJungleman29 in topic GA Reassessment
Former good articleBurkhan Khaldun was one of the Geography and places good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
June 29, 2016Good article nomineeListed
January 27, 2024Good article reassessmentDelisted
Current status: Delisted good article

meaning of the name edit

what's the source for saying the meaning is "god Khaldun" and not, say, "god-khaldun"? Wouldn't "god Khaldun" look more like "Khaldun Burkhan" instead the other way round? I admit that my Mongolian is not very good, but I don't think this is so obvious. Yaan (talk) 11:01, 5 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

Burhan does not mean "god" at all. Burhan means Buddha while Buddha isn't a god. As my teacher taught us (if I were listening carefully and didn't misunderstand), double "d" in ancient Sanskrit was pronounced as 'r". So it sounded like Burha, and 'n' was added in the course of the evolution of the word[1].
IMHO, the word Buddha is related with the root of the Russian word budit' (будить) meaning "to awaken" (I didn't say Sanskrit comes from Russian, please don't misunderstand). Burhan or Buddha is an awakened person, enlightened person, who has discovered to himself the meaning of the existence. Such person enters nirvana after passing away. Or postpones this process to lead the other sentient beings to enlightenment and becomes a Bodhisattva. Nirvana is a state of liberation from samsara.
There are six realms in samsara and the highest is the realm of gods. They live very long that for humans their lives seem to be eternal. Very virtuous humans may go to the god realm after death. Gods are not free from nisvanis and samsara. They eventually use out all the virtue they collected in all past lives. When they die, they have no more virtue remained but sins and fall directly to the hell realm. In Mongolian, "god" is "tenger". It's different from "sky" -- "tengri". Some of the gods (Jehovah?, Krishna?) claim to have created the world. In fact, the world isn't created by any creature, it forms as a result of the collective karma of all sentient beings. Its future also depends on the karma of all of us.
All this was narrated to explain the difference between god (tenger) and Burhan.
The Mountain Otgon Tenger -- yes, that's "the Youngest God". Gantuya eng (talk) 14:55, 6 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

GA Review edit

This review is transcluded from Talk:Burkhan Khaldun/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Sainsf (talk · contribs) 13:51, 29 June 2016 (UTC)Reply


General
  • GA toolbox checks out
  • Say either Genghis Khan or Chinggis Khan consistently
    • Used Genghis Khan
Lead
  • on July 4, 2015 DMY date
    • Had missed it
Geography
  • means the "God Mountain" In which language?
    • Done
  • Wikilink Pacific Ocean
    • Linked
History
  • Not relevant to this article: also spelled Chinggis Khan, whose original name was Temujin
    • Deleted
  • a most sacred mountain Say "highly" instead of "most"
    • Changed
  • “Secret History of the Mongols” Italics, no quotes
    • Done
  • mention twenty-seven times "27" would be less wordy
    • Done
Flora
  • The correct wikilink is Taiga
    • Linked
Fauna
  • five species of ungulate, one species of reptile ungulates, reptiles
    • Corrected
  • The names of all animals need not be capitalized. See their articles and use the proper punctuation
    • I don't know how I missed the obvious. Done now
  • Thanks for the review. Addressed all the above issues. Let me know if I have left out anything.Nvvchar. 15:22, 29 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Thanks, promoted. Sainsf (talk · contribs) 18:24, 29 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

GA Reassessment edit

Burkhan Khaldun edit

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Result: Delisted. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:55, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

This 2016 listing has degraded significantly - it contains uncited material and relies on some unreliable sources. I intend to restore this article, but it will need a full, top-to-bottom rewrite. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:48, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

It has been eight years since this was listed. Surprised a 8-year old GA listing would be on the reassessment despite being fairly new. probably Keep if fixed GabrielPenn4223 (talk) 17:55, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
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