Talk:Bridget D'Oyly Carte

Role in the opera company

Great start on the article! The previous edit said:

Dame Bridget D'Oyly Carte, born 25 March 1908, was the granddaughter of Richard D’Oyly Carte and proprietor of the D’Oyly Carte Opera Company from 1948 to 1961.

As a topic sentence, I think this is misleading. Although the corporate structure changed in 1961, Miss Carte remained at the head of it — as the article accurately goes on to say. It's usually a good idea to keep topic sentences simple, so I reworded it to say that she was head of the company from 1948 to 1982. The body of the article describes the change that took place in 1961. Marc Shepherd 13:54, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

• Quite so. Decidedly better. (En passant, I note you capitalise 'earl'. Is this Wikipedia's house style? Modern usage in England is tending to drop the upper case (also in e.g. prime minister, lord chancellor etc).) Tim riley 17:50, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I capitalized Earl based on the usage at the Earl of Cranbrook page. I don't know if Wikipedia has an official utterance on the matter, but this is the de facto style in similar articles. Marc Shepherd 21:53, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Life with father

I have just found an interview with Bridget D'Oyly Carte printed on pp 1630/1633 of the March 1975 edition of The Gramophone. It isn't stupendously revelatory, but I liked this:

"At home, you know, we weren’t allowed to hum Gilbert and Sullivan; in fact we were fined for it, because it annoyed my father. We were allowed to sing it properly, but my brother and I couldn’t –- in my family the fact that I wasn’t Mozart at about three years old was thought of as rather disappointing. So I went through a phase when I was very anti-Gilbert and Sullivan; I became rather a highbrow, and my father thought I was a bit of a snake-in-the-grass because of it."

I don't know if this is worth slotting into the Wikipedia article on her. Tim riley 17:25, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

I threw it in. See what you think. Are you sure of the sentence before the "--" above? Is a word or two missing? -- Ssilvers 17:51, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

That will do nicely. The quote is verbatim - triple checked, I promise. I read it as meaning that the children were forbidden to hum the tunes but would have been allowed to sing them properly if they had been able to - but they weren't. Tim riley 20:08, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Photo

Can anyone find a free photo of Bridget D'Oyly Carte to upload? -- Ssilvers 19:29, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Infoblot

If this is the consensus referred to in an edit-summary, please revisit and check. There is none. Please do not foul the top of these articles with formulaic infoboxes. Tony (talk) 02:02, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Nonsense, which is the most polite term I can find for it. Opposition to using an infobox in an individual case like this as unconstructive at the least, and more accurately termed disruptive. It's basic policy that we don't over-ride a general principle of article construction that has 99% general consensus without very special reason, which has not been demonstrated. Tony, if you wish to abolish infoboxes, start a policy discussion. DGG ( talk ) 00:42, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Where is this consensus? There is no such policy that I am aware of. -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:48, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Do not remove the infobox from the talk page during an active RFC please. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 16:18, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Bridget Cicely D'Oyly Carte
[[File::george-baker-bridget-doyly-carte.jpg|frameless|upright=1]] With George Baker at a Gilbert and Sullivan Society celebration in 1964
Born	(1908 -03-25)March 25, 1908 Pall Mall, London
Died	May 2, 1985(1985-05-02) (aged 77) Shrubs Wood, Buckinghamshire
Cause of death	Lung cancer
Parent	Rupert D'Oyly Carte
Relatives	Richard D'Oyly Carte, grandfather

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