Talk:Big White Ski Resort

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The result of the proposal was no consensus, article remains at Big White Ski Resort.

Requested move

To conform with Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names). I would also be agreeable to Big White (ski resort) or Big White, British Columbia. Alr 01:41, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Voting

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• Oppose. I think the logo on the page explains it it all. Hamedog 02:15, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Discussion

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• The just look at the logo. It has Big White Ski Resort, not just Big White. Also if someone was to type in Big White, there is a redirct to here Hamedog 02:18, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Result

No consensus, so no move. I'm also of the opinion myself that it should remain where it is. I note that neither myself nor Hamedog are from that part of the world, and that the proposer Alr does not give any such personal details. The proposer seems to have reversed the latest move themselves, as requested on their talk page, so I'm hopeful this means they'll accept this decision. Andrewa 10:03, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Few small changes

Added in a couple of pics from my recent trip to Big White (wish I hadn't come back!), as well as a few bits about lifts, runs, the village etc... Burtonpe 19:04, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, say that. Nice panorama photo! --Hamedog^Talk|@ 12:20, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

POV

I feel, and I am sure you will agree, is that the edits by User:Odysseus107 are very POV and I suspect that they may well be an employee of the resort. Does anyone else feel these edits should be removed? --Hamedog_Talk|^@ 07:38, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

I agree completely. That's blatent advertising. Alr 22:36, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I also agree...Odusseus sounds like he owns the place. Revert away...216.191.239.82 14:08, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, that last unnamed comment by me, Burtonpe 14:10, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Changed it back. --Hamedog_Talk|^@ 07:51, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

NPOV AND CLEANUP

Well firstly, I have put both these tags in because any company linked to Big White is using this article as a free chance to advertise. This needs to be sorted out, and I hope someone who is a netural party can rectify the problem.--Hamedog_Talk|^@ 09:10, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

New section

I think that a new section about the telus train park should be added. I have pictures if everyone thinks it sould be added. Thanks -mikeh0303

Yeah there is actaully a section about the TELUS park - its called "Terrian Park". Add some images too it, it will look good! This article also need the adverts removed.--Hamedog_Talk|^@ 04:20, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Busters Run

I was wondering if I should input the info on Busters Run, a hidden hogback just off of Black Forest chair between Telus park and Millies Mile?

Its not really notable for a Wikipedia article. Please also sign your comments with four tildes ~~~~--Hamedog_Talk|^@ 01:22, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Trivia help

Somebody please change "Big White" from bold to a wiki-link. Socby19 00:17, 13 March 2007 (UTC)SocBy19

Article Title

Alright, I'm going to request another move be made to "Big White (ski resort)", simply because I have been skiing and snowboarding there since I was 5 years old, and so has my family dating well back into the early eighties. Television, radio, and newspaper ads all refer to it simply as "Big White", and the first thing that would come out of someone's mouth regarding the name would be "Big White", not "Big White Ski Resort". Wikipedia's naming conventions state that the most acceptable and commonly known name is the rightful one, so as long as it isn't misleading to the licensed or proper title. To be perfectly honest with you, I cannot recall anyone having the preference to call it "Big White Ski Resort" when referring to it. It's known around British Columbia and Kelowna particularly as simply "Big White". Besides, it's just the article's name, and within the article: "Big White Ski Resort" will and should continue to remain, just not as the article's title. Refer to Billy the Kid. If you need more examples, just ask. — Hucz ^{(talk · contribs)} 21:17, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I think the name-formatting so far has followed standards/guidelines from WP:Ski and WP:Companies, but it doesn't ahev to, and I do agree with you - "Big White" is pretty much a placename like Kelowna or Nelson (i.e. we don't have to have "City of Nelson" as that article title). Similarly Apex and Silver Star are used in the same way....Little Mac, Powder King, Purden.....; raises an interesting issue for sure.....Skookum1 (talk) 16:37, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Looking back on this discussion, I personally could care less about the article's title. "Big White Ski Resort" is correct. "Big White (ski resort)" is also correct. Either works for me, and I'm sure others would agree also. — Hucz ^{(talk · contribs)} 00:47, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

• Oppose move; it is the official name; having "ski resort" inside brackets only complicates the title (un-necessarily). "Big White", without anything else, is way too general a term. Having "Ski Resort" in the title is in line with other similar articles such as Fernie Alpine Resort, Revelstoke Mountain Resort, Mount Norquay ski resort or Castle Mountain Resort. --Qyd (talk) 01:18, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
• Oppose As I went through and expanded the contents of Category:Ski areas and resorts in British Columbia and the accompanying list and template, as also on List of ski areas, I "harmonized" them with their DBA names, i.e. the corporate doing-business-as names; or "most common" as with Summit Lake Ski Area vs Summit Lake Ski Hill, or taking it from their own website; in Whistler Blackcomb's case that is their DBA name (and with no hyphen, despite most people writing it with a hyphen). "Big White" because of the simplicity of the terms might invoke some objection from literally-minded Wiki editors not familiar with the resort, also; Whistler(-)Blackcomb is a different matter (and people still say "I'm skiing Blackcomb" and "I'll ski Whistler tomorrow" and if going up there would say "skiing Whistler" etc...the ambiguity of the terms is something like skiing Aspen vs Aspen Highlands vs Snowmass..."skiing Aspen"). Apex clearly can't be a resort name, and Purden would seem to be a disambiguation page, ilkewise Harper, and Fernie I'd bet is a redirect to teh town...so the easiest thing to do wwas to use their DBA names; ditto "Silver Star" which BCers would know is a ski area, but other Wikipedians might go "huh?". Powder Mountain, by the way, is un-DBA'd but it's in the US; likewise Crystal Mountain, and different dab standards apply (I guess - even though AFAIK there is no gazetted "Powder Mountain" at that lcoation, vs the one in BC (Powder Mountain Icefield, the icefield-name is unofficial but long-standing locally, and there may yet be a resort named Powder Mountain there too). "Big White" evokes images of big piles of cocaine also LOL (not that there wasn't a lot seen up there at one point...); it's a disambiguation page waiting to happen, in fact, and I'd bet there's more than one pop-culture reference out there which ahve nothing to do with the resort....Skookum1 (talk) 20:12, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Big White out

Now I've skied BW many times, and plan on returning. However, it seems that the nickname of this resort is well known and well deserved -- well over 1/2 of my days on the hill were socked in. Are user reviews reference-able on this point? There's no lack of them, and for "reviewers often note..." it seems more than reasonable. Maury Markowitz (talk) 22:32, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

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