Talk:Big Jubilee Read

Flags

@Peter Ormond and FDW777: When I created the list I chose not to link the countries, per WP:OVERLINK. Peter then added the flag templates which add flag icons and links. FDW then changed the Northern Ireland flag from the specific, unofficial, flag to the union flag. I think this is inappropriate in a context where NI appears alongside England, Scotland and Wales. This seems to me to be a situation similar to the Commonwealth Games, which is mentioned as one where the NI flag is used. I don't want to edit-war so hope this can be discussed here. For now I have removed the flag for NI.

It's ironic that Heaney is generating this problem, given the doubts raised over his inclusion in the list, but this is the list we are working with.

Thoughts? PamD 21:47, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

I agree that the Northern Irish flag is the best to use here. While it is not legislated, it has some de facto recognition through its use in the Commonwealth Games, Olympics and elsewhere. Also, it represents NI specifically as opposed to the UK as a whole, which is what the Union Flag does. Kind regards, thorpewilliam (talk) 06:55, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

It's only used on Wikipedia in sporting contexts, not just because people want a flag icon. See Template:Country data Northern Ireland#Other information, also WP:IRISH FLAGS and Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Icons#Overbroad use of flags with_politicized connotations. The use only for specific sporting uses is specifically stated. We could just remove all the pointless flags instead. FDW777 (talk) 07:04, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

I see. The guidelines say it may be used if featured in the source. Seeing as it's not, it may be necessary that we simply use no flag for NI – or replace all flags of England, Scotland and Wales as well with the Union Flag, as the flag of the sovereign state through which they share Commonwealth membership (though this may not solve the initial issue). Regards, thorpewilliam (talk) 07:59, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

I think either we remove all the flags or go with Thorpewilliam's suggestion above. Peter Ormond 💬 10:48, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

"The"?

I've reverted the page move to "The Big Jubilee Read", as "The" is rarely capitalised in the sources, and sometimes omitted: see omitted, "the", "the", "the" etc. I don't think consistency with The Big Read should trump this. PamD 15:00, 17 May 2022 (UTC)