Talk:Belarusian grammar

Palatalized "s" and "z"

It seems that s' & z' are not [ɕ] & [ʑ], at least they are quite different from both Polish si/zi and Russian щ/жж which are [ɕ]/[ʑ]. In the same time they are different from Russian с'/з' which are palatalized [s]/[z]. So I really don't know what Belarusian s' & z' are. --Koryakov Yuri 19:13, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

It is quite possible you're right. These IPA definitions may be quite inaccurate, even fictitious, and/or WP:OR'ed. If you have good sources, please make corrections. The 1985 edition of grammar doesn't contain IPA definitions. Yury Tarasievich 22:45, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

You were right, those IPA equivalents of s' and z', and possibly some others, seem to be somebody's invention. The articulation definitions of those look suspicious, too. Yury Tarasievich 22:10, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Help needed

I'm not sure about my translation of articulation places in the newly added table. Some of the English terms seem too detailed, and some too generic, to make a undisputable connection to Belarusian terms. Labials were no problem, for others I've used the following translations:

• "пярэднеязычныя зубныя" (lit. front-of-tongue dental) = alveolar
• "пярэднеязычныя пярэднепаднябенныя" (lit. front-of-tongue front-of-palate) = alveolo-palatal
• "сярэднеязычныя сярэднепаднябенныя" (lit. middle-of-tongue middle-of-palate) = palatal
• "заднеязычныя заднепаднябенныя" (lit. back-of-tongue back-of-palate) = glottal/velar

Yury Tarasievich 11:29, 7 February 2007 (UTC)