Talk:Bayes Business School

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Elemimele in topic What prompted the name change?

I have changed the opening line, as suggested by Bensawtell below, to be more neutral as the reference was the school itself rather than an independent source and this article very much reads like an advert/prospectus rather than a wikipedia article. 9riffin (talk) 13:32, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

There are two numbers for alumni in this page: 13,000 and 17,000. Which is it?Yoavf 11:31, 15 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Reads rather like a prospectus rather than an encyclopedia article88.104.96.117 (talk) 18:39, 11 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

I agree. This has clearly been written by a marketing department. —Preceding unsigned comment added by El-Shabazz (talkcontribs) 11:41, 13 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

Notable alumni edit

The alumni without pages on Wikipedia are probabaly not notable. We should remove them. --Duncan (talk) 08:36, 1 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Suggested changes to Cass Business School Page edit

Cass Business School (short for the Sir John Cass Business School, City of London) is the business school of City University, London. Established in 1967 as the City University Business School (CUBS), the school changed its name in August 2002 following a donation from the Sir John Cass Foundation,[1] an educational charity based in the City of London. The School is divided into three faculties: the Faculty of Actuarial Science and Insurance, the Faculty of Finance and the Faculty of Management.[2] It awards BSc (Hons), MSc, MBA andPhD degrees. The School’s Alumni Association has more than 31,000 members in 154 countries.[6] The School's stated aim is to be "the intellectual hub of the City" by forging links with financial institutions and multinational corporations as well as start-up businesses.[9] The Dean of Cass Business School is Richard Gillingwater, CBE. Mr Gillingwater joined Cass from the UK Shareholder Executive (UKSE), where he was Chief Executive and then Chairman. He was awarded a CBE in the Queen’s Birthday Honours List 2008 in recognition of his services to the financial services industry[citation needed].

Campus Cass is located on Bunhill Row, close to the centre of London's financial and commercial district, the City of London,[8] and is the only business school with its base there. Until 2002 the school had been spread our across the Barbican Centre development and did not have its own front door.

History City University grew out of the Northampton College of Advance Technology (CAT), founded in 1957. Northampton CAT in turn traces its history back to 1894 to the Northampton Institute, founded in Islington in premises donated by the Marquess of Northampton. Northampton CAT was essentially an engineering college. However, between 1963 and 1966 it shifted focus as it prepared for its new status as City University. A taskforce of academics was charged with developing a management education curriculum. The result was an MSc in Aministrative sciences, which became the MBA in 1979. In 1966, the first cohort of MSc postgraduates entered the Department of Management Studies at City University. The new intake enjoyed a student-faculty ratio of – ten students to nine faculty members. The Department of Management Studies was renamed the Graduate Business Centre (GBC) in 1969. In 1976, undergraduate programmes were introduced and GBC became City University Business School. Finally in 2002, the school was renamed the Cass Business School, in honour of funding from Sir John Cass’s Foundation. Sir John Cass Sir John Cass a merchant, builder and politician who served as Alderman, for the ward of Portsoken and in 1711 was elected Sheriff. He was elected as one of the Tory MPs for the City in1710; until losing to the Whig faction in 1715. In 1709 he founded a school for fifty boys and forty girls in buildings in the churchyard of St Botolph's Aldgate in 1709. Cass had made a will at this time, but when his health failed in 1718, planned a new version taking account of the extra property he had acquired in the intervening years. Cass began a new will, but by the time of his death only three pages had been initialled. The will — worth £2000 — was contested by his heirs at law Court of Chancery. Lady Cass continued as patroness of the schools, but died in 1732. The school continued for a few more years under the aegis of Valentine Brewis, one of the trustees Cass had named, but was closed down after his death in 1738. In the early 1740s the remaining trustees petitioned Parliament for the permanent endowment of the school, and the will was finally upheld 30 years after Cass's death*. This enabled the Sir John Cass's Foundation to be established in 1748.~

  • Chancery Proceedings C11/991/10 9 December 1722

~ Shutters Court - Sir John Fouches, A Dictionary of London (1918). Date accessed: 27 May 2009

Cass Undergraduate Courses Cass offers 8 Undergraduare courses including Actuarial Science, Banking and Finance, Investment, Management and Real Estate. In 2011 Cass Business School had 1500 students from 90 countries studying in its undergraduate school. [edit]Specialist masters courses Cass is currently the largest provider in Europe of specialist masters courses[1] , with more than 20 programmes including Banking (retail, central and investment), Asset Management and Quantitative finance, Energy and Supply Chain Management, Property valuation and Investment and Management in financial services, shipping, energy and the charity sector. Cass also offers MSc in Real Estate and MSc in Real Estate Investment. [edit]Cass MBA The Cass MBA is offered full-time through a one year course, or through two years part-time Executive MBA, or two years through the modular Executive MBA. In September 2007 Cass Business School started an Executive MBA in collaboration with DIFC (Dubai International Financial Centre). This programme is delivered through e-learning and workshops taught by visiting Cass academics once a month over long weekends. Rankings and accreditations Cass has been ranked first in London and third in the UK for its undergraduate programmes in business, management and finance for three years running (The Guardian University Guide 2008, 2009 and 2010), whilst the FT ranking of European Business Schools placed it third in the UK and fourteenth in Europe (December 2008). In 2008, The Times ranked us thirteenth in the UK and fifth in London for graduate employability, and many multinational companies target our students each year. The MSc in Management has been ranked 2nd in the UK and 15th in the world by The Financial Times Masters in Management ranking 2010[citation needed]. The EMBA was ranked 10th in the world by the Financial Times in 2010.[20] The full-time MBA was 41st (world rankings) in 2008, 2009, and 2010 by the Financial Times.[21] The Higher Education Funding Council for England gives Cass's business and management teaching the highest rating of ‘excellent’. The Cass MBA is recognised and accredited by both the Association of MBAs (AMBA[3]) and the European Quality Improvement Scheme(EQUIS[4]).

[edit]International partners Cass was a founder member of the Alliance of Management Schools in European Capitals (AMSEC) which provides opportunities for research collaboration with fellow schools in Paris, Brussels, Rome, Berlin, Madrid and Oslo. [edit]

Notable alumni William Castell - Chairman of the Wellcome Trust and a director of General Electric and BP, former CEO of Amersham plc until it was acquired by GE when he became CEO of GE Healthcare and a vice-chairman of GE, BA Peter Cullum - British entrepreneur, founder of the Towergate Partnership, the largest independently owned insurance intermediary in Europe, UK Entrepreneur of 2005 David Essex - Chairman of Bemrose Group James J. Greco - CEO of Bruegger's Enterprises Inc., parent company of Bruegger's Bagel Bakeries, Massachusetts Sir Stelios Haji-Ioannou - Founder of easyGroup[23] Robert P. Kelly - CEO of Bank of New York Mellon, former CFO of Mellon Financial Corporation and Wachovia Corporation Muhtar Kent - CEO of The Coca-Cola Company. Formerly, President and COO of Coca-Cola International and Executive Vice President ofThe Coca-Cola Company Liu Mingkang - Governor, People's Bank of China[23]

Faculty

As of December 2010 Cass has 105 full-time faculty. Among their professors and teachers are: David Blake, Professor of Pensions Economics and Director of Pensions Institute; Andrew Clare, Professor of Asset Management; Steven Haberman, Professor of Actuarial Science, Director and Deputy Dean; Costas Grammenos CBE Professor of Shipping, Trade and Finance, Pro Vice-Chancellor, City University; Cliff Oswick, Professor of Organisational Beahviour; Paul Palmer, Professor of Voluntary Sector Management; Professor of Economics, Geoffrey Wood.

Bensawtell (talk) 13:28, 6 May 2011 (UTC) BensawtellReply

NPOV Clean-up edit

As you'll notice, I've gone through and removed a large amount of promotional text from the article. Please do not bring back the superfluous language that I removed. I'm gonna throw my computer if I see the words "most prestigious" again! This article is supposed to be encyclopedic, not promotional material.

I am also going to trim down the "Rankings and Reputation" section. I look at better written articles on business schools and their text on rankings is much more concise and uses rankings that seem more recognizable to me. I have a feeling that the contributors cherry-picked the rankings that they liked.

Before adding back any rankings or superfluous text, I ask you to discuss it here first. Higgyrun3 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:39, 25 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

I would like someone else to address the ongoing abuse, so that I don't get into an edit war. I would like to note that Sir Stelios is indeed an alum, but many of the others that have been relisted are not alum, as far as I can tell. Higgyrun3 (talk) 01:32, 3 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Rankings edit

I have completely removed the section about rankings per WP:UNDUE (smacks of sneaky advertising), also because this article has experienced problems for a long time. Any editor which is affiliated and/or has a conflict of interest should declare so openly. Please also mind WP:PAID. Lectonar (talk) 06:37, 19 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

I do not understand why you removed the entire ranking sections, all the rankings provided are true and supported by source. They are simply facts, deleted them are unreasonable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.240.164.83 (talk) 13:42, 19 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

See my note above. Lectonar (talk) 13:49, 19 June 2017 (UTC)Reply


I was not paid nor related to this business school. Wiki needs facts for the public to understand the topic. There should be a ranking sections in all business school pages. Will you add or create new ranking section? Or you would just leave this page empty like that? I suggest you should verify the information you removed to know that they are legit. And perhaps you could write the section your own instant of leaving it empty. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.240.164.83 (talk) 13:58, 19 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

I had to remove that again. No other English business school includes selective rankings; it is still undue, my comments above stay valid. Lectonar (talk) 15:49, 6 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

The wiki needs facts for the public to understand the topic-I agree with this. London Business School also has a ranking section on their page, ranking is one of the most important information for the public to understand this school's performance. Will you add or create a new ranking section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 36.230.247.212 (talk) 13:04, 23 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

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The Business School edit

The Business School edit

The Business School (formerly Cass) as referred on the business school page https://www.cass.city.ac.uk/about

I would suggest Wikipedia community to take the title of the page to "The Business School". Please update the School logo as well.

Chateau Louis XIV (talk) 19:14, 30 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

What prompted the name change? edit

A previous editor added the category "Category:Name changes due to the George Floyd protests". With some reluctance, I've reverted this because I don't know if it's strictly true, and we don't currently have a reference to back it up. The school has said it changed its name to distance itself from John Cass, after whom it was previously named, because of his links to the slave trade, but the current referenced statement doesn't mention George Floyd. While George Floyd's murder undoubtedly triggered a huge leap in awareness of the Black Lives Matter movement, a lot of educational establishments were already struggling with their consciences, and there was already a ground-swell of rebellion against such men as John Cass, and a lot of name-changing already underway. I'd like to honour George Floyd and ensure his death was not entirely in vain, but we need to be accurate, and there were many other brutal and bad acts committed against black people that were already stacking up against the John Cass's of this world. I would have felt happier with some category like "Name changes due to the Black Lives Matter movement" or similar? Elemimele (talk) 16:46, 4 October 2021 (UTC)Reply