Talk:Battle of Forbie

Latest comment: 4 months ago by Adam Bishop in topic Move to Battle of Forbie?

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" ...generally considered to be Al-zahir Biabars who became Sultan of Egypt in 1260! ". how generally considered ? : never any historian said al zahir baibars led this battle. many people used to have same name . Actually you need to put a citation that they were same person not vv :) Samsam22 (talk) 21:36, 16 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

Are the numbers for each side correct? I have always been under the assumption that the Crusaders were outnumbered (as they normally were infact) in this battle? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.195.50.47 (talk) 11:26, 13 February 2010 (UTC)Reply

who write the assumption this Baibars was not the Sultan Baibars? and i want to hear the argumentAhendra (talk) 14:59, 12 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

The article on the Sultan Baibars says that he was the commander of the victorious troops at La Forbie in 1244. Jsc1973 (talk) 05:01, 3 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

Who won ? edit

At the moment the infobox 'result' states: "Ayyubid victory" On looking further down, I see the word 'Ayyubid' is on both sides. Its only when one reads the article that the result becomes more clear. This rather defeats the object of having an infobox.
The 'result' should be a lot more obvious, otherwise...

RASAM (talk) 22:13, 8 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Trans Jordanian? edit

According to the disambiguation page, this is a Christian entity. This article does not seem to use it in this sense. Could someone who knows this topic better than I do please clarify? Thanks Elinruby (talk) 02:11, 15 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

Move to Battle of Forbie? edit

Any opposition to moving this to just "Forbie"? The "La" part comes from René Grousset, who wrote "La bataille se livra dans la plaine sablonneuse qui s'étend entre Ascalon et Gaza près du village d'Herbiyâ, la Forbie des chroniqueurs." As Ilya Berkovich has explained, English historians misreading Grousset then named the battle "La Forbie." It should therefore be called the Battle of Forbie, as Berkovich calls it, and the name that other recent historians have adopted. See Berkovich, “The Battle of Forbie and the second Frankish Kingdom of Jerusalem,” in Journal of Military History 75 (January 2011), p. 17. Adam Bishop (talk) 18:08, 6 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Support I've found numerous mentions of "battle of Forbie". --Kansas Bear (talk) 18:46, 6 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
Go ahead. It's good to have an explanation. It's also weird that the French would be misunderstood, since the English construction would be the same ("Herbiya, the Forbie of the chroniclers"). Srnec (talk) 21:47, 7 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
Done! Adam Bishop (talk) 17:46, 9 January 2024 (UTC)Reply