Talk:Battle of El Guettar

Latest comment: 1 month ago by 2A01:4B00:BB18:A600:E738:4C0D:38F4:6829 in topic Not a US victory

Italian role in defence of important hill being disputed edit

"The enemy positions seemed impregnable, and, in fact, the Italians manning them held out for three days ... Rommel, in a last desperate effort replaced the Italians with crack German troops. Hand-to-hand fighting followed, but the enemy, finally fell back into the ravine, leaving many dead behind." (Source: http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2507&dat=19430401&id=zjRAAAAAIBAJ&sjid=TVkMAAAAIBAJ&pg=2804,4830439)

I have requested a proper explanation to confirm if this French report belongs to the action taking place in the Mareth Line or not. The French war correspondent claims that Italians had vigorously defended the "El Hamma" position.--100menonmars (talk) 21:25, 23 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

My mistake, I had confused Hamra Ridge in US sector with Hamma Ridge in British sector.--100menonmars (talk) 21:42, 23 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

Apologies should have put this here first rather than reverted it. The El Hamma position lies near the Mareth Line and was attacked by the British 1st armoured division and the Free French (as mentioned by the newspaper) during their attempt to encircle the retreating Axis forces. El Hamma is nowhere near where the US attacked Hill 772 & Hill 369 during last stage of the battle where the Italians held them up. Shire Lord 21:48, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
No problems & thank you. Shire Lord 21:56, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

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Not a US victory edit

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The US did not win, the battle was inconclusive. Patton lost as many men and as much material as was lost at Kasserine Pass, and this was against a severely depleted Axis army. 86.148.205.39 (talk) 11:57, 25 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

If you can provide sources that the battle was inconclusive please change the article to reflect. I have looked and can't find any, including the cited reference. Jackfork (talk) 12:11, 25 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

Correct it was not a US victory. They performed poorly. An allied victory yes, as the British Eight Army came up the Axis rear forcing them to turn 180 degrees away from US forces. 2A01:4B00:BB18:A600:E738:4C0D:38F4:6829 (talk) 12:21, 15 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

“Battle” section full of irrelevant information edit

Most of the information provided in the “battle” section has nothing to do with El Guettar. What Eighth Army were doing further south had little bearing on the battle, and II Corps and Eighth Army didn’t link up until after the 6th April. It also fails to mention units from BR First Army following up the retreating German forces when II Corps halted.Enderwigginau (talk) 10:10, 18 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

@Enderwigginau My dad was the 22 yrs old Italian second lieutenant in charge of hill 290. Such hill is cited in several books - ie An Army at Dawn and the official history of the US Division employed in the Battle - but not in this wikipedia article. incidentally, the Americans had attacked it mistaking it for the Hill 369 cited here . Fabrizio Formica 93.44.184.12 (talk) 22:55, 5 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
put the article right. 2A01:4B00:BB18:A600:E738:4C0D:38F4:6829 (talk) 12:16, 15 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

No troop numbers given edit

The troop numbers on each side have not been given. Important information. 2A01:4B00:BB18:A600:E738:4C0D:38F4:6829 (talk) 12:17, 15 March 2024 (UTC)Reply