Talk:Batman (franchise)

Re-think the article

I think this article needs a major overhaul. There's too much unnecessary information (stuff best left to individual articles) and a generally sloppy feeling all around. Perhaps it should be re-worked in line with the much more concise Superman in popular culture.Rhindle The Red 16:31, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

General

Placed some video info appropriately in the TV section, from the Movies section, and added some info about the animated series.

It seems like there really should be a DVD section here... maybe I'll start one in the sandbox, with the animated series DVDs, and people can fill in the rest? (Unsigned by User:Simnel 13:20, 9 December 2005

Simnel, forget the sandbox, just get to it! Dyslexic agnostic 20:25, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Rorschach and Spawn

Removed this text:

• Rorschach from Watchmen is somewhat similar to Batman in the fact that he is a masked vigilante that takes a violent, radical approach to justice and the law. He is based on the Question, a charater found in DC Comics. Like the Question, Rorscach is much more unstable and even deranged than Batman.

Obviously if Rorschach is based on the Question he doesn't belong here. I seem to remember Moore saying he was derived from Batman though.

Also, someone mentions Spawn, and gives a McFarlane quote. I don't see the similarity AT ALL. Does anyone have a reference for this? Simnel 19:03, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

The Rorshach article says he's derived from the question; good enough for me. Simnel 19:07, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Also removing Spawn as a Batman derivative. If someone re-inserts it, please just give a reference. Simnel 09:34, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Rorshach is more akin to The Question. Night Owl was the Batman derivative in Watchmen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.116.43.98 (talk) 18:43, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Slightly off topic, but Nite Own is based on the original Blue Beetle (Ted Kord), not Batman. Moore was originally given the Charlton Comics characters which DC acquired in a merger to use in Watchmen, but then DC changed their minds while he was writing it, so the characters were renamed and altered. Blue Beetle became Nite Owl, Question became Rorschach, Captain Atom became Dr Manhattan and (I think) Nightshade became Silk Spectre.Euchrid (talk) 01:04, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Other questionable entries

Um... another good question would be why in God's name Strongbad's No Loafing sign is a Batman reference?

I really don't know why Kevin Conroy wasn't mentioned so I added him. Some consider him to be the definitive voice of Batman. I wanted to include that sentiment and his name. I suggest someone add a picture as well.

Spongebob too... X Man and Y Boy is NOT a Batman reference, it's a general comics reference. Similarly, Blue Falcon and Dynomutt... I don't know. Knight Watchman? CLEARLY a Batman riff. But Blue Falcon? What makes him like Batman SPECIFICALLY, rather than just following a bunch of comic book conventions? Same goes for Radioactive Man... who based on his origin, costume, superpowers, etc, is clearly NOT based on Batman. Simnel 17:27, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Also, it's strange how many of the entries in 'Batman in other media' refer to comic books :-) Simnel 17:27, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Homestar

In a day or so, if someone doesn't source -- or at least provide a rationale -- for the Homestar reference, I'm gonna chop it. Simnel 23:53, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

I say go for it! Dyslexic agnostic 01:48, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Graphic Novels

Okay, Dyslexic... if "The Complete Frank Miller Batman", for instance, a three hundred page hardcover, isn't a book, what is it? And if for some reason I don't understand you DON'T consider it a book, why not start a separate graphic novels section? Just as importantly, considering the mess that's going on on the main Batman page, why not at least be polite while you're making your changes? Simnel 18:38, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Merger of Animated Series Batman

See Talk:Animated Series Batman for more info... that article is essentially fancraft and can be substantially reduced and included here. In any event much of it duplicates existing info found on pages for specific TV shows like Batman: The Animated Series and Justice League Unlimited and there is no need for a separate page. Merge. Dyslexic agnostic 06:02, 30 May 2006 (UTC).

I asked for some time before voting. It's not a finished projets. Wath bothers me the most is that, I'd already came to an agreement about getting some time to finish the project. I consider this proposal a personal attack and question (not deny) the good faith of the editor who put the merging tag. I consider his actions harassment (he reverts whatever I do without asking, move pages, erase info that later other people add again, etc).

I'm taking of the tag. I'm not against a future merge, but I need some time to shape the info, and discuss with other users wich page to merge the info with. I'm taking the liberty specially since DA's proposal has yet failed to raise interest of other editors. I ask, with all respect to give me and the enthusiast of this little project until June 25 to finish with the info. I'll ask help to the finest editors I know so far and promess to do my best. --T-man, the wise 01:48, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

WesleyDodds, thanks for re-adding the merge tag... I was going to do it myself. Obviously edits can be made while the tag is up, but people should be made aware of the issue. Dyslexic agnostic 05:28, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Merge - Unnecessarily overflowing, it has an in-world POV, and it's redundant in light of several other articles that either already have the information or would be a more appropriate place for it. --Chris Griswold 06:44, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Animated Series Batman (character) sandbox

During the creation of of that "late" article I always stated that it was a draft or unproject. It took weeks until Bennon cleverly figured out what I was trying to do was a sandbox (which I didn't know how to do until now). Now everyone can edit it with no time pressure and talk about what to do with the info when i's finally finished. I coul'd have created the sandbox in my own talk page, but I don't want anyone to assume I "OWN" the project. Feel free to erase, add and source stuff to improve it.--T-man, the wise 22:34, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Batman Fights Dracula

I can't confirm whether Batman Fights Dracula was a fan film or what. I can't even find a source to confirm that it was unauthorized. Although that seems probable, "probable" doesn't cut it with Wikipedia. Doczilla 09:20, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

It doesn't appear to be real I searched and could not find anything besides the one of The Batman series- Dark Dragon Flame 18 December 2006

• It's real.[1] That's not the issue. Doczilla 09:37, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
• What the hell is this though?[[2]] I think somebody got it and Batman Fights Dracula mixed up. Doczilla 09:46, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Ok It's real, kind of hard to get info, although my search skill is not that great. I meant real as in Autorized film. However my search got always sidetracked with the one of The Batman, thanks for providing the info-Dark Dragon Flame 19 December 2006

It's not authorized. But does an unauthorized foreign full-length film count as a fan film? Come to think of it, I guess it has to. Doczilla 10:47, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

List of Batman pastiches

List of Batman pastiches doesn't really need its own page, does it? Rhindle The Red 13:35, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

• No, and unless each entry in the list is linked to a verifiable outside source in which creators clearly state it was intended as a pastiche/parody/mockup of Batman, then the pastiche list should be deleted for OR and POV. Doczilla 13:41, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

SNL

I see there is a parody section here. Shouldn't The Ambiguously Gay Duo be mentioned here somewhere as well. Just a thought - --65.175.22.1 18:01, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

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Page move

This page was moved from Batman in popular media without any discussion that I can see and without fixing any redirects. Is everyone okay with this? "Batman franchise media" just sounds odd and I certainly don't like it myself. Rhindle The Red 18:05, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm amenable to moving the page, but it's a far more accurate title. It's not Batman in popular culture, it's various media that are part of the Batman franchise. --Eyrian 18:12, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

It's not very encyclopedic though, is it? Hardly rolls off the tongue. I'm not sure most people would even know what it means before reading it. A far more accurate title (if the article is what you say it is) would be Media portrayals of Batman. Frankly, though, I don't see how any are better than the original. Unlike Superman in popular culture, this was "Batman in popular media", which seems perfectly descriptive of what it is. And, anyway, moving an article that has this many hands on it should not be done without discussing it first. Rhindle The Red 00:28, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure about those. That tends to include other appearances of Batman, which really isn't what this article is about. It's about official items that have been released as part of the franchise. As for many hands, it seems to be about a dozen edits a month. That doesn't strike me as being particularly heavy, and when weighed against the fact that it's a largely arbitrary title (that is to say, it was devised by an editor) it didn't seem like a big deal.--Eyrian 04:26, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

But this article also covers fan films, which do not fall under the aegeus of "franchise". It's about the characters appearances outside of his comic book origins, so the title needs to reflect that. There is a problem with various "media" articles not following a common titling scheme. Spider-Man in other media, Cultural impact of Wonder Woman and Superman in popular culture all cover the same kind of material as this article, but have different titles. Regardless, the current title does not properly reflect the nature of the article (and, as I said, isn't really that clear). Since the article can be easily moved back, it certainly isn't a big deal, but retitling of an article this old should never be done lightly. Rhindle The Red 14:52, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

The name is better than "in popular culture" (as this leaves the entry open for a tonne of trivia and gets entries deleted) and helps keep it focused. It might be the name needs a slight adjustment but it is getting there and I don't think it'd be helpful moving it back. I'm going to consult on this with the comics project and see what comes of this. (Emperor 20:44, 1 September 2007 (UTC))

Live action television

Could anyone that is insisting on adding a red linked The Batman live action show dated for 2009 please provide a source for it?

Right now IP editors have been constantly adding in what amounts to a 1 line speculation with no references. This has been going on way too long and the semi protection of the article is heading to wards effectively locking the article until next December.

- J Greb (talk) 16:11, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

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Infobox image content

The image in the infobox is now captioned, Batman as seen in the panel of the Pepsi Cards, 1996. However, I can find no mention of "Pepsi Cards" in the article, nor do I find anything about "cards" in the articles Pepsi, PepsiCo, or any other "Pepsi-" article in the encyclopedia. I see two basic possibilities: This image is—one way or another—not relevant to the article, or it needs to be explained in the text. Anybody know which? --Tbrittreid (talk) 19:24, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Batman Live

recently annound a world arena tour starting in the UK called batman live i cant source too many detials at work but the website www.batmanlive.com should be of some use —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.169.58.1 (talk) 11:31, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Umm... excuse me

Batman: Arkham City? that is now an official part of the Batman media in the videogames section, I have no idea why you kept reverting my edits and blocking the page. (186.29.203.78 (talk) 18:38, 20 February 2012 (UTC))

Because the infobox is not, and was never intended to be, an exhaustive list of titles. Nor is it supposed to be updated to match the "newest" items only. It provides a brief example of the types of shows, films, and video games in the full list in the article.

And yes, there is going to be an issue with which unique sets get put in since there are more than five sets of shows or five sets of games. But, Batman: Arkham City is part of a set of games started with Batman: Arkham Asylum, which is already in the 'box.

- J Greb (talk) 22:17, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Batman reboot

I've noticed that, for months now, users have been trying to jump the gun on the Batman reboot and it's rumoured title "The Batman". So naturally, as soon as Affleck acknowledged the title, it made its way onto Wikipedia. Well, Affleck just clarified his statements. It turns out, not only is "The Batman" still not the official title, but the film is still in early development. I should probably remind everyone that we are not in a hurry. It's not official until it's official. I admit that, after Affleck made the initial statement, it looked like a confirmation. However, people have been trying to add this long before even that. Wikipedia will still be here when an actual announcement arises. Don't worry. DarkKnight2149 13:51, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

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