Talk:Basshunter/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Merytat3n (talk · contribs) 09:02, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

I will review this over the next few days : ) Merytat3n (talk) 09:02, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):

   b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a. (reference section):

   b. (citations to reliable sources):

   c. (OR):

   d. (copyvio and plagiarism):

   Earwig's copyvio comes back at a maximum of 7% because of album names. Randomly googling some sections of the article only return Wikipedia clones.

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a. (major aspects):

   b. (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):

   b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/fail:

(Criteria marked are unassessed)

• Lead:

• Needs expanded to more fully summarise page as currently it only lists awards and albums. First sentence is fine but would be good to add what Basshunter is known for, musical style, early life and career including albums and then awards. Writing leads is hard but I found WP:CREATELEAD helpful and compare with pages such as Bruno Mars (GA) or Lorde (FA).

•  Comment: @Merytat3n: I extended the lead. Eurohunter (talk) 08:56, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

• Early life:

• Not a major problem but can you resolve the "citation needed"?
  •  Done. Reference added. Eurohunter (talk) 17:03, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
• "He attended Kattegattgymnasiet [pl; sv] secondary school, a technical school" - I am unsure what this means. Is it a secondary school or a technical school or both?
  •  Comment: Swedish "musiklinjen" was translated to "music specialization" so I changed Swedish "tekniklinjen" to "technical specialization". The final version is "He attended Kattegattgymnasiet secondary school with a technical specialization, but moved after two years to Sturegymnasiet, a secondary school in Halmstad with a music specialization.". Eurohunter (talk) 17:03, 15 May 2023 (UTC) Y

• Career - 2001-2006: Beginnings:

• "In 2004, Basshunter was chosen in an online poll" - does the source say what sort of online poll?
  •  Comment: There is no information. Quote from reference "Jonas första spelning som Basshunter var på en rejvfest i Älmhult 2004, där besökarna valt ut honom via en omröstning på internet.". Eurohunter (talk) 17:03, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

• Ok that's fine Y Merytat3n (talk) 09:02, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

• I have added one for one of the sources but if urls are behind a paywall you can add "url-access=subscription" to let others know they are behind a paywall
  •  Comment: Yes but there was custom more detailed note about subscription: "In the unarchived version, access to the article is possible after purchase or by paid subscription." Eurohunter (talk) 17:03, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

• I see that, it is very helpful. I found there is also a template Template: Subscription required that adds "subscription required" after each source. But regardless this is not necessary for GA, probably only for FA : ) Merytat3n (talk) 09:02, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

• "Basshunter's interest in music deepened as time went by.[15]" There is a flag inside this citation formatting asking if this information is necessary.
  •  Comment: This is quote from reference: "His interest in music became greater as he progressed.". Eurohunter (talk) 17:03, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

• Okay I will remove that tag Merytat3n (talk) 09:02, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
  •  Comment: @Merytat3n: Can you recommand anything better than "Basshunter's interest in music deepened as time went by." in comparison to "His interest in music became greater as he progressed." from reference?. Eurohunter (talk) 17:52, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

    @Eurohunter: Perhaps something like "Following by his success as an independent artist, Basshunter became more interested in pursuing a career in music industry." ? I can't think of anything that isn't close paraphrasing haha. The sentence could be moved to the end of the "Beginnings" section so that it leads into the next section "LOL"?? Otherwise, the sentence can be removed entirely. Merytat3n (talk) 02:58, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

•  Comment: @Merytat3n: I think this is about his early carrer and it refers to his pre-2004 tracks released online, 2004's studio album The Bassmachine and 2005 single "Welcome to Rainbow". In 2006 he continued work and released "Boten Anna", which turned out to be internet hit in Sweden then he signed to labels Warner Music Sweden and Extensive Music which opened door for international releases and carrer. Eurohunter (talk) 19:26, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

  @Eurohunter: Ah ok. I can't think of better phrasing. I think we either remove it or turn it into a quote. Let me know what you think. Merytat3n (talk) 01:06, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

•  Comment: @Merytat3n: I think it's hard to phrase it and it's even hard to quote it. Eurohunter (talk) 08:56, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

• @Eurohunter: I will leave it for now Merytat3n (talk) 10:09, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

General comments: Basshunter expressing his opinions on things, such as describing the stage name as being "commercial and powerful" should be in quotation marks. This is especially true in the Artistry section for sentences like "He added that it is more important than ever to adapt and an artist has to create something that people haven't heard before and described it as a holy grail."

•  Comment: I avoid direct quoting so this sentence is paraphrased - it's not direct quote. "describing the stage name as being commercial and powerful" - this is paraphrased too but it's probably impossible to replace words "commercial and powerful" without loose of the meaning. Eurohunter (talk) 17:03, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

• Hmm. Consulting MOS:FOREIGNQUOTE it should be ok as is. Y

I have made some edits to the article itself so please check that I didn't change the meaning of things I edited and that the sources are still correct. Let me know if you need more clarification on any of my comments. Putting it on hold for 7 days so the issues can be addressed. Thanks! : ) Merytat3n (talk) 09:52, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

 Comment: "A year earlier, in 2006, DJ Mental Theo (under the alias Bazzheadz) had created an unofficial English version called "Now You're Gone"." - I would only change "unofficial" to "bootleg" and actually it's not English version - it has different lyrics. I wonder if lyrics is different (not translated) and music is different (not sampled) shouldn't it be called interpolation? Eurohunter (talk) 17:03, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

• Ok how about "On 29 December 2007, an English-language re-recording of "Boten Anna" entitled "Now You're Gone" was released. A year earlier, in 2006, DJ Mental Theo (under the alias Bazzheadz) had created a bootleg English version called "Now You're Gone" [pl] using the melody of "Boten Anna" with entirely different lyrics." ? Merytat3n (talk) 09:02, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
  •  Done This is excellent. Changed. Eurohunter (talk) 17:52, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

 Summary: @Merytat3n: Your comments have been noted and issues has been taken into account. Some issues require further comments from you. Thank you. Eurohunter (talk) 17:03, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

@Eurohunter: Thanks! Just the lead expansion and your opinion on the "Boten Anna"/"Now You're Gone" sentence needed :) Thank you Merytat3n (talk) 09:02, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

 Comment: @Merytat3n: I will try to extend lead tomorrow. Eurohunter (talk) 19:53, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

 Comment: @Merytat3n: I extended the lead. Eurohunter (talk) 08:56, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

* Excellent! I have made some edits to it, please check they are ok. I am happy to pass this article Merytat3n (talk) 10:09, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

•  Done I think it should be okay. Thank you. Eurohunter (talk) 15:36, 22 May 2023 (UTC)