Talk:Banksia speciosa/GA1

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Reviewer: Sasata (talk · contribs) 23:35, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

I'll review this. Sasata (talk) 23:35, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

It's a challenge - I'll see if I remembered all the links this time.... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:21, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Comments. Some suggestions/nitpicks are more FAC-level, but I figured you wouldn't mind :) Lit check later. Sasata (talk) 01:41, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

• I've always figured was more useful for the opening sentence of a species article to indicate its family, rather than its genus, as the latter apparent from the binomial. Note also that the lead sentence says "Banksia" three times.

changed to family Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:26, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

• don't need to be told twice in the first two sentences that it's a plant

removed 2nd mention Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:26, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

• link shrubland, bushfire

blarg - thought I got them all this time :P ....linked Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:26, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

• "Though widely occurring, it is highly sensitive to dieback and large populations of plants have succumbed to the fungus." 1st: Phytophthora cinnamon is not a fungus; 2nd: wouldn't it be more accurate to say "succumbed to the disease", as the start of the sentence mentions dieback, not the causative organism?

fixed Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:39, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

• "The flowers attract nectar and insect-feeding birds" -> nectar- (or nectar-feeding)

hyphen added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:26, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

• how about adding who first described the species and when in the lead?

added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:32, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

• isn't 8 m closer to 26 feet?

fixed Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:26, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

• any chance of including a picture that shows its singly-stemmed, many-branched habit?
• "…triangular lobes which have a zigzag pattern" which->that

done Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:32, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

• please split the massive 1st paragraph into a couple more digestible ones

rejigged Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:52, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

• and contains one or two viable seeds. ->contain?

done Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:32, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

• link follicle

already linked at first instance in lede and body.... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:39, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

• check throughout for too many sigfigs in the conversion 2cm->0.79 in and 2 mm->0.079 in (might consider rounding off 20 cm->8 in throughout as well)

had to rejig manually Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:35, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

• link for Gibson area?

need to research as to best location to link to. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:35, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

• has the Gibson area variant been described as a distinct taxon?

no, only difference is shorter leaves. As far as I know never investigated Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:53, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

• link George on 1st appearance, and give first name. I'm not sure he needs to be quoted for his use of "broadly obovate"; is this contrary to how others describe the cotyledon shape?

done. There is an issue with cotyledon shape - subsequent review of banksia shows that there are two subgenera which can be distinguished on cotyledon shape (cuneate vs obovate) - George described this as obovate but it more resembles a blunted cuneate and is in fact in the subgenus with cuneate cotyledons (and looks like them on silhouette). This is not discuessed really anywhere. The best I can do is quote the sources. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:35, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

• "and is a smaller more open shrub." comma after smaller?

done Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:52, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

• link Ferdinand Bauer, Investigator, common name, series, conserved, sister

linked Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:56, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

• "The genus Banksia L.f. (Proteaceae)" -> "The genus Banksia L.f. (Proteaceae)"?

the whole title is italicised as it is a monograph - should I un-italicise the genus within it? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:41, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

I think yes; this would follow our formatting style, and does not make if any harder for a reader to find the source. Sasata (talk) 03:54, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

ok, tweaked Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 07:13, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

• what is the name for the bioregion in whch the population at Point Cuver occurs?

It is still in the Esperance Plains bioregion - if I made it a semicolon before the segment mentioning Pt Culver then that'd be implied? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:17, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

• "It is often the dominant shrub in shrubland, often found with" often … often

done Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:41, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

• redlink Phyllachora banksiae (it'll turn blue eventually …)

linked Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:56, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

... told ya! Sasata (talk) 03:47, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

• "A specimen flowered in a greenhouse in the Royal Botanic Garden Edinburgh in 1830." Is this notable enough to include? Is it unusual to flower in "captivity"?

yes - mediterranean WA to Scotland.....vastly different climates. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:41, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

• is Brown (1810) or Meissner (1856) in Latin?

yup. fixed Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:06, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

• check for consistent title case in book titles/sentence case in journal article titles (or whatever format you're using), consistent location formatting, and page range formatting

title cased Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:45, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

• don't need to give publisher for journal Australian Systematic Botany

done Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:02, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

• more specific page number for ref#16 (Lamont et al. 1991)

added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:11, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

• italicize binomial, ref#17

done Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:02, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

• location for ref#20?

done Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:02, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

• what methods are used to control dieback?

none specific for speciosa - some endangered species have been translocated or sprayed with an antifungal. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:01, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

• Phytophthora taxon niederhauserii Z. G. Abad and J. A. Abad[1] has also been recorded afflicting this species:

Title: Phytophthora taxon niederhauserii, a new root and crown rot pathogen of Banksia spp. in Italy.

Author(s): Cacciola, S. O.; Scibetta, S.; Martini, P.; et al.

Source: Plant Disease Volume: 93 Issue: 11 Pages: 12–16 doi:10.1094/PDIS-93-11-1216C Published: 2009

added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:18, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

• this looks interesting: "… B. speciosa dominated the responses, with greater seed release than expected, fewer initial seedlings, lottery survival of 1st year seedlings and greater survival of 2nd year seedlings, when compared with the previous stages. Large seeds and subsequent high growth rates enabled B. speciosa to exploit soil water preferentially during the severe summer drought."

Title: A TEST FOR LOTTERY RECRUITMENT AMONG 4 BANKSIA SPECIES BASED ON THEIR DEMOGRAPHY AND BIOLOGICAL ATTRIBUTES

Author(s): LAMONT, BB; WITKOWSKI, ETF

Source: OECOLOGIA Volume: 101 Issue: 3 Pages: 299-308 doi:10.1007/BF00328815 Published: MAR 1995

added - debated about this one as pretty mathematical but some good conclusions. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:00, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

• Seed bank dynamics:

Title: SEED BANK DYNAMICS OF 3 COOCCURRING BANKSIAS IN SOUTH COASTAL WESTERN AUSTRALIA - THE ROLE OF PLANT-AGE, COCKATOOS, SENESCENCE AND INTERFIRE ESTABLISHMENT

Author(s): WITKOWSKI, ETF; LAMONT, BB; CONNELL, SJ

Source: AUSTRALIAN JOURNAL OF BOTANY Volume: 39 Issue: 4 Pages: 385-397 doi:10.1071/BT9910385 Published: 1991

added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:00, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

• you could add Kuntze 1891 as a source from here

aaah nice, hadn't thought of that before. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:47, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

• since there's a section on cultivation, you might mention the seedlings seems to be "moderately tolerant to salinity" from here

Title: Effect of Salinity on Seedling Emergence of Seven Banksia Species Cultivated for Cut Flower and Foliage

Author(s): Rodriguez-Perez, J. A.

Source: JOURNAL OF PLANT NUTRITION Volume: 32 Issue: 9 Pages: 1540-1550 Article Number: PII 913565942 DOI: 10.1080/01904160903093844 Published: 2009

added. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:47, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

• Robert's Brown's protologue is available here doi:10.1111/j.1096-3642.1810.tb00013.x, or free from Wikisource or BDH (see p.210; Florabase says this is the protologue, I see reference #9 is also Brown 1810, but a different publication)

yeah, 10 is the Prodromus - both now linked to pages, which is great Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:33, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

• minor referencing nit: decide whether to have spaced or unspaced author initials

will try to stick to unspaced. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:33, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

After having confirmed that all images are properly licensed, I'm confident that this article meets all of the GA criteria and will now promote it. Good luck at FAC! Sasata (talk) 05:42, 25 June 2013 (UTC)