Talk:Bakewell tart

Picture request

There appears to be a bakewell tart already on the Bakewell cake. Is something different required or has someone just forgotton to take Bakewell cake off requested images? Dev920 16:18, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

De-merge Bakewell pudding

Anyone who has eaten Bakewell Pudding will know that it is nothing like Bakewell Tart. I suggest that there be an article for each one. JeremyA 21:57, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Absolutely agree. Totally different. To have one article for these two things is nonsense. It's loike having one article ofr Glasgow Rangers and GLasgow Celtic - they're both football teams with Glasgow in the name, must be the same! Robsteadman 22:19, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Agree - David (www.buxtonspabakery.co.uk)

Bakewell cake merger

The Bakewell tarts I have seen have all been significantly different from the Bakewell cakes; both in terms of size and in content (no jam, for a start). I vote against any merger with this article. (Like that's a surprise, seeing as I created the other article). Whitepaw 20:24, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Changed my mind after finding the Cherry Bakewell article, merge Bakewell cake with that instead of this. -- Whitepaw 15:30, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

I'd suggest merge Cherry Bakewell and Bakewell Cake into Bakeweell Tart and leave the Pudding article alone, exccpt from the erroneous statement that the Pudding and Tart are the same thing. Robsteadman 15:41, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

I think this is a total mess. Pudding is different, though has some links to Tart and Cake (though I'd never heard of the Cake before). Robsteadman 11:03, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Totally agree with your reasoning (merge Cherry Bakewell and Bakewell Cake into Bakewell Tart, with the necessary redirects; de-merge the Bakewell Pudding article). Meanwhile, I'm Wikifying the disambiguation page, awaiting your action as described! - Disambiguator 00:30, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

I also agree. These two items are very different. Plus there really is no such thing as a Bakewell Cake, this is the commercial version of a Tart, so named by Mr. Kipling Cakes. It is totally wrong that the Pudding and Tart are on the same page, when the Pudding is the original item and totally different from a Tart and/or the Cherry Bakewell varient. If anything there should be two pages, one for Pudding and one for Tart, with the Tart page acknowledging the varient of the Cherry variety. Awheewall 09:32, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

I work for a bakery in Buxton, near Bakewell. There are various different types of Bakewell "Cake" (which isn't a generic term) - and they are all very different. www.buxtonspabakery.co.uk make all the different types of Bakewell Pudding / Tart (including some different ones). Just my 2 cents worth!

It's now been almost 2 years since I wrote my last comments on the pudding/tart mess that this article is in. I see that the only commenters then and since tended to agree that the pudding and tart are two different things. So unless someone has any better ideas in the next couple of month, I'm going to de-merge the Pudding from this article and create it's own page. I will also make the appropriate reciprical links between the pages and also properly quoting the Cherry Bakewell variety on the tart page. Awheewall (talk) 20:13, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Note sure if you ever got around to thinking about doing this, but I think that the article nomenclature as it stands is a mess. Tarts and puddings are totally different, and as the pudding came first, and is mentioned in the geographical Bakewell article, I feel that we should go ahead and change the title to Bakewell Pudding with a redirect from Bakewell Tart/Cake. Incidentally, I have never heard of a Bakewell Cake and I've lived there all my life! --86.153.109.79 (talk) 09:00, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Caps

I'm sure Pudding should be pudding, but what abut Bakewell or bakewell? Rich Farmbrough. 13:07, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

BAkewell should have a B not a b Robsteadman 11:02, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

My two pennies

I was born and lived near Bakewell for 18 years... I have always understood a Bakewell pudding to be a Bakewell tart. I think the confusion arises from the fact that the Bakewell "tart" available in supermarkets is completely different to a real Bakewell Tart/Pudding. They simply call in a "tart" because I believe (but I may be incorrect here) that the term "Bakewell pudding" is protected by EU legislation.

Sorry, but there isn't any 'origin' protection for anything with the name Bakewell- if there was, Bakewell Tart and Bakewell pudding would probably be too close anyway.

http://ec.europa.eu/agriculture/quality/database/index_en.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.105.66.106 (talk) 22:55, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Plagiarism

Almost the entire introduction of this page is taken directly from here. Once I find the proper template, I will be marking it as such. --Omnipotence407 (talk) 00:51, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Given that the introduction of the article appears to have been written piecemeal over the last 2 or so years it seems more likely to me that they copied from here rather than the other way round. —Jeremy (talk) 00:56, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Tart v. cake & British context

First, I think needing a citation for the debate about tarts v. cakes is a bit silly; the whole sentence should probably just go -- this is worse than the above "cake vs. pudding" debate (depends on where you're from, generally, and how you want to use, or are accustomed to using, the terms.) (Especially silly in this context since "pudding" is probably a more dramatically changing word (geographically) than tart, which is rarely used to mean such wide ranging things as "dessert" and "custard.") In any case, it would be useful to add some additional context about the history/Britishness of Bakewells -- available in any supermarket, for example, could be modified by UK? Or wherever the homerange of Bakewells is. I have never noticed one in a grocers, although I'll start looking now.Kvcad (talk) 02:39, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Confused

This needs editing "The Bakewell Tart, also known as Bakewell Pudding, is a jam pastry with an egg and ground almond enriched filling. Often confused with the Bakewell Tart" = so the Bakewell Tart/Pudding is often confused with the Bakewell Tart, hmmmmmmm. 80.101.230.63 (talk) 03:01, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Confusion fixed

The information appears to be corrected. I will remove the contradiction template and hidden category.Quinxorin (talk) 01:09, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

If you do a search for "Bakewell pudding" you are redirected to this page, only to be confronted with the opening line, "The Bakewell tart, not to be confused with the Bakewell pudding..." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dobong (talk • contribs) 18:04, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

History of the Bakewell Tart

Hi. Why the heck does the history of the Bakewell Tart not, in fact, tell the history of the Bakewell Tart? This is an artical about the Bakewell Tart, not an advertising page for Derbyshire. Thanks. Me, Hurray! (talk) 19:43, 4 April 2011 (UTC)