Talk:Bachata (dance)

Latest comment: 9 years ago by Ibadibam in topic Sources for inclusion


Copyright concerns edit

Although this material is also present at this external site, evidence suggests it evolved on Wikipedia. See, for example, this diff. The external site mirrors later language. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 17:47, 27 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

Personal opinions edit

Wikipedia is not a place for promoting personal opinions, regardless of how strongly you believe something might be correct or incorrect. Even though I agree that what was being called "Real/Traditional Bachata" is indeed the original style of bachata and thus should be the style people call "Traditional Bachata", performing a search in any search engine or asking for the opinion of several bachata dancers, you'll find that what you are trying to call "New Traditional" is known and accepted by the vast, vast majority of people as the "Traditional Bachata". Likewise, I have changed your use of "real" back to "original" bachata for the same reason: if you ask people what the "original Bachata" is, the vast, vast majority will know it is "Dominican Bachata" (or "Traditional Bachata" to you). However, ask 100 people what "real" bachata is and you'll get 100 different answers. Again, I respect - and in many ways agree with - your opinions, but this is not the place for them. 86.26.3.189 (talk) 23:14, 13 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

Sources for inclusion edit

I've added a couple of sources. Here are a few more to work in:

  • Drake-Boyt, Elizabeth (2 February 2011). Latin Dance. ABC-CLIO. pp. 84–. ISBN 978-0-313-37609-2.
  • Kuss, Malena (ed.). Performing the Caribbean Experience. Music in Latin America and the Caribbean: An Encyclopedic History. Vol. 2. University of Texas Press. pp. 209–. ISBN 978-0-292-78498-7. NOTE: relevant passage not available in preview

Ibadibam (talk) 21:57, 13 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

Proposed Variants section changes edit

Through personal anecdote I can say that bachatango does not exist in the NW of the U.S., and google results show only 49,000 results. From a bit of digging it looks like popularity has waned in recent years, and relatively few places teach or have this dance. It is likely a localized regional variant, and time will determine if it gains enough popularity to warrant inclusion. Most videos only show choreographed routines, further suggesting that this would be more appropriate as a category of performance rather than a bachata variant.

Bachatango would be more appropriately mentioned in a short list of the "Other styles" secion, alongside similarly popular variants, like "Bachata fusion" which an explicit google search returns over twice as many results. If not, it should be removed as it is not a significant style.

The modern and western sections should be considered for merging, as even the description of modern is for a stylized version of the description of "western". Any social dancer would agree that stylizing a dance does not make it another dance. There do not exist any authorities on this. Strong influences eventually lead to new dance forms but flavorful incorporations don't warrant a new section in varaints.

Dominican style should be included. I can write this up if needed, but as a form it generally is much lighter and closer together, footwork is the main focus /w added complexity and variants being a notable difference. Also rarely do partners spin or break frame.

Similarly, ballroom should be a brief mention possibly in antoher secion, as no ballroom dance authority has released a syllabus or scoring rubric for bachata. Until then it is impossible to say what would consitute this variant. I may be wrong on this my research was not extensive.