Talk:Architectural plan

Definition of the term "Architectural plan"

I wonder about the definition of the term architectural plan. I guess this term could have multiple meaning:

• a floor plan
• a scale drawing of a structure. "the plans for City Hall were on file" (source [1])
• the documentation of written and graphic descriptions of the architectural elements of a building project including sketches, drawings and details. This effort could also includes both the design of new buildings and other structures, as well as the planning for reconstruction of early historic structures. (source [2])
• a plan for an architectural project

I also guess this article (I designed) should make more clear what meaning it wants explain. -- Marcel Douwe Dekker (talk) 00:20, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

I agree. Where is the difference to Architectural drawing? —Preceding unsigned comment added by TomAlt (talk • contribs) 23:06, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

In the two articles Architectural drawing and Architectural plan, I have defined, that an architectural plan is one type of architectural drawing. Other types are architectural sketches, cut aways, cross sections, perspectives, etc... Now I am not yet clear if this classification will hold. I think it all come down, what definitions we use, and at the moment this is not yet clear. I could use some reliable sources here.

Or do you think two article could and should be merged? -- Marcel Douwe Dekker (talk) 00:01, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

P.S. AS a test edit I have merged the two articles. Do you (or anybody else) think this is a good solution here.

Hi Mdd, where do I find this merged version? TomAlt (talk) 14:26, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

In Architectural drawing. -- Marcel Douwe Dekker (talk) 14:56, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Undone merger here

I have undone the proposed merge between Architectural plan and Architectural drawing for now because I think the merge didn't work out well. I would like (some time) to improve this article, and if this doesn't work, it can still be merged. -- Marcel Douwe Dekker (talk) 01:32, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

I think the initial question "Where is the difference to Architectural drawing?" TomAlt asked is easy to answer now. There plan is the sum of what it will look like (the drawing), and when it will be build (the planning).

I think it makes a lot of sense to give an overview of the different types of plans, architects work on from Floor plan, Garden design, Landscape plan, Site plan, Transportation plan to Urban plan. Maybe the transportation plan is out of line here and the interior design plan could be added. But that is not the issue here. These are a series of plans on a different geographical scale, worth adding together in this article. In the architecural drawing, according to TomAlt, this was confusing there. But I think it will work here. I will try to find some more reliable sources to back this up. -- Marcel Douwe Dekker (talk) 02:45, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Copy-paste registration

• In this initial edit text is copy/pasted from the Architectural drawing, Floor plan, Garden design, Landscape planning, Site plan, Transportation planning, and Urban planning article.
• In this initial edit text is copy/pasted from the Architectural drawing article.
• In this initial [ edit] text is copy/pasted from the plan, plan view and Planning article.

-- Mdd (talk) 20:47, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Gallery

I've a bit of a problem with some of the images in the gallery - some of them are elevations and some are perspectives. Can anyone give me a good reason not to delete them? Sometimes Incoherent (talk) 11:56, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

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Article presents a confused and confusing view of the subject

It appears that this article is not based on a clear understanding and definite scope of the meaning of the term architectural plan, including a scattered collection of statements with the word plan or planning in them but no coherent overview. The references are all local planning authority guides and are all now broken links, except the definition which is lifted word for word from Wordnet: (n) plan, architectural plan (scale drawing of a structure) "the plans for City Hall were on file" (http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=architectural%20plan). The first thing to make clear is that 'plan' used in this context is not the same as plan view but is a possibly colloquial term for scale drawing. The scope may duplicate that of Plan (drawing) and one or the other may need to be adopted as the definitive guide to the subject. Finally far too many illustrations, some of them not plans by any definition. ProfDEH (talk) 17:22, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

The article has been rearranged, some parts have been removed, others added, the dead links have been removed. I think the initial confusement has been fixed. The article is now more focussed on the topic of Architectural design, which is not yet covered in Wikipedia. -- Mdd (talk) 20:22, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

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This page has languished at least since 2014 with no edits and no clear purpose. I think only a redirect will resolve this - I've tried to come up with a rationale for the existence of the page but there doesn't seem to be one. If the term means anything it means an architectural drawing, and there are other pages that cover every aspect of the subject. ProfDEH (talk) 09:26, 19 October 2021 (UTC)