Talk:Anna Hassan

Quotes

I feel the quotes are unneccessary and out of context and completely unencyclopedic. I've asked for a third opinion because I do not want to edit war with the article creator who has already decided to ignore WP:3RR. WP:Quote states these three things:

• "Quotations should be put in context and given any necessary explanation. As an editor, it is your responsibility to read the source of the quotation thoroughly, in order to prevent misrepresentation."
• "Brief quotations of copyrighted text may be used to illustrate a point, establish context, or attribute a point of view or idea. Copyrighted text must be attributed. If not used verbatim, any alterations must be clearly marked, i.e. [brackets] for added text, an ellipsis (...) for removed text, and emphasis noted after the quotation as "(emphasis added)" or "(emphasis in the original)". Extensive quotation of copyrighted text is prohibited."
• "the quotation is being used to substitute rhetorical language in place of more neutral, dispassionate tone preferred for encyclopedias. This can be a backdoor method of inserting a non-neutral treatment of a controversial subject into Wikipedia's narrative on the subject, and should be avoided. "

I feel the quotations in this article are both excessive and don't flow with the article. Also, the first quote is herself tooting her own horn. She is not a reliable source on her own changes. She is not a third party source. To avoid the WP:3RR, I'm asking for a third party to take a look at the article.--TParis00ap (talk) 02:50, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

I was not aware I had violated WP:3RR. I do not believe I engaged in any warring or behaved in any way "concerning blatant overuse of reverting, a common kind of edit war behavior ... [by making] more than three revert actions (of any kind) on any one page within a 24-hour period". I certainly have no wish to do so and no wish to incur any penalties. I apologize if I did violate WP:3RR in this case. I simply and respectfully asked User:TParis00ap on his talkpage to explain the reasons for his edit removing a large section of the Hassan page. I rv his edit once pending a final resolution of the matter. If I made any error herein I sincerely express my regrets.Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 04:37, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

You're right about the WP:3RR, I apologize for accusing you of violating it. It was wrong and I should have WP:AGF. I neglected to notice the 24 hour period. I would apologize on your talk page aswell, but my office blocks it because of the @ sign in the URL.--TParis00ap (talk) 12:53, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

If you can't go there because the @ is blocked by your office, try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rms125a%40hotmail.com (using a %40 URL escape code instead of the @). EdJohnston (talk) 13:57, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Still blocked. Our proxy is giving me this error: Tech Support Code: VPM (Blocked Extensions)--TParis00ap (talk) 16:00, 10 September 2009 (UTC). I tried going to an article with .com at the end and was blocked from that too so I think it's the "." instead. I tried using %2E but it resolves to a . and still blocks me. I'll be happy to post an apology when I get home.--TParis00ap (talk) 16:00, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Third opinion

I've had a look at the article, and I would agree that the quotes do seem out of place with the rest of the text. However, you don't need to lose them altogether - in this case, I think it would be better to apply the {{Cite news}} template to the inline references and insert the text using the quote= attribute. For an example of how I've applied this myself, see Andover F.C.#Rivalries. Bettia (bring on the trumpets!) 10:33, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Done. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 11:35, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

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