Talk:Amira Masood

Sources

Behind the scenes of the wedding, this is VERY GOOD and has lots of information! AnemoneProjectors (talk) 01:44, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Last name

Her last name has been changed to Masood in the article, but I think they are more likely to follow tradition meaning she is Amira Syed. I suggest we don't put a married name until we know for sure. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 20:37, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Don't wait for the EastEnders site because sometimes they chat the biggest load of crap i.e: Archie, Eric and Clive's parents are: Sandra and Phillip Mitchell In that site its: Eva and Harry Mitchell.

Despite controversy, we tell the people the truth using our logic and various records. E.E site is very inconstitent I am going to write to Diederick Santer about this.--92.14.114.169 (talk) 19:35, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

We're not waiting for the site, we're waiting for anything. We know the site makes mistakes. It's been changed recently and I don't think they are updating it at the moment. Wait for something to be mentioned on-screen. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 19:42, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Going to bring this up again because a cast member has said she is called Amira Syed, but all BBC sources say she is Amira Masood. I know Masood goes against conventions but don't we have to go with our most reliable sources = the offical website? Either way, I think I was wrong to move the page away from Amira Shah. AnemoneProjectors 18:53, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

I know it's not the best indicator of anything, but Google News archive hits: Amira Masood - 6; Amira Syed - 3; Amira Shah - 23. Looking at just the ones from this month it's Syed 3, Masood 12 and Shah 8. For the article location then, I'd probably leave it a few months to see how things pan out - if Shah ends up levelling out as the most commonly used name then we can always move the article back.

As for what we should use in the lead, I think what the BBC credit her as is probably a more authoritative source than word of mouth from a co-star. We know the cultural norms, of course, but there might be a shade of synthesis in saying Amira did X and cultural norms say Y so Z must hold true. If that makes any sense. Frickative 19:10, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it is a bit synth-y. I did notice also that when Masood's brother was in the show, his son was credited as Ali Ahmed, not Ali Inzamam. So I'm not sure the person who writes up the credits for BBC Programmes is necessarily correct, but Amira's profile on the BBC site is for Amira Masood, not Amira Syed. However, if we had Diederick Santer or one of the main crew members of the show saying she's Amira Syed, then I'd go with that. I think Nitin Ganatra was doing his own synthesis! Perhaps we should just call her Amira Shah (in the lead), like we did until we saw she was actually credited as Amira Masood -- long after she was married. AnemoneProjectors 19:37, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

By the way, of the three results for "Amira Syed", only one of them contains the phrase "Amira Syed". AnemoneProjectors 19:42, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

I've moved the page back to Shah because of the dispute and the Google results. AnemoneProjectors 19:27, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

I also changed the lead back to Shah for the same reason. AnemoneProjectors 19:31, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Following User:Zythe's edit summary, I have explained both surnames. AnemoneProjectors 12:14, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

The Red Button minisodes this week credit her surname as Masood.86.31.237.19 (talk) 12:55, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

That doesn't change anything though, does it? Are you proposing something? –AnemoneProjectors– 13:24, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

I think we should review this now, as we know that she can be called Masood (Afia is and it was mentioned on screen), and she's well known as Amira Masood, but we can still keep the "Amira Syed" part in the lead. –AnemoneProjectors– 14:49, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Should the Amira Syed part in the lead be bolded? I thought we only bolded names in the first part of the lead? D4nnyw14 (talk) 21:08, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Amira Syed is a name... –AnemoneProjectors– 15:22, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

I mean't in the first part of the lead, the part that says what the subject is. D4nnyw14 (talk) 16:21, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Sorry I didn't realise you meant the first paragraph. Is there a rule on this? I think it's valid wherever it is. –AnemoneProjectors– 16:29, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

There might be but i haven't saw one, i only brought it up as i've never saw it in another article but it might be ok. D4nnyw14 (talk) 16:35, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Moved

So someone has been cut/pasting the page to rename it, this obviously is wrong so I've been reverting it. But I decided to move the page properly because, although she was Amira Shah for 7 months and has only been Amira Masood for 4, she is probably better known by that name now. Although, Google results for Shah far outweigh those for Masood, so maybe I was wrong. anemoneprojectors talk 00:38, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Sources

• Inside Soap on Amira's ReturnRaintheOne ^BAM 22:48, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Duration and Surname

The duration in this article is incorrect and is extremely misleading. The character departed from EastEnders in March 2010 and didn't reappear until October 2011. We did originally agree to keep the duration as normal if the re-appear date is within one calnder year but this is way out of a calender year but in Amira's case, it's a year and a half. Finally, Amira is now better known as Masood. She's credited as Masood and the WikiProject agreed to keep any characters' maiden name until the new name remains longer. Amira has been known as Shah just short of 9 months. She has been Masood for over a year now so her name should be altered to read Masood. Regards, GSorby – Ping! 13:24, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Well it is less than one calendar year's difference, because 2010 and 2011 are not a calendar year apart. But in real terms it's a lot longer, so maybe we should change it. I don't know if we agreed we'd go by length of time, because the old name can be better known in many cases. But I agree, nobody remembers her as Amira Shah these days, right? –AnemoneProjectors– 14:51, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

The duration, at present, is extremely misleading and implies that she was in the show continuously for three years. I agree that you can't go taking into account every break or the durations would look a mess but 12 months + seems reasonable. What's the point in the one year rule if people aren't going to stick to it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.0.97.133 (talk) 12:45, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

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